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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: yasi123 on Thursday 09 May 24 04:13 BST (UK)
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William James Henderson born 1915
mingenuw western Australia, mother Mary quirk
he married a Margaret Thelma Jones 1943 , could bee Salisbury SA, they had 2 children
i know he enlisted for ww2 but was discharged due to bad behavior,
he divorced margaret, but trying to find did he remarry a t all
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After he deserted the Army, William James HENDERSON was living at Crystal Street Broken Hill in 1950.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/45681737
Sue
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thank you
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IF the informant of his death knew his history his death certificate should state marriages such as who to and when and his children.
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yasi123
If you have any further information about the man, it might be helpful to share it.
Even tiny clues can help us find the right William James HENDERSON, among the many.
Sue
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trying to find out but so far nothing he enlisted in ww2 but was turfed out from being unruly . his first wife margaret thelma hemderson in 1960 took him tp court for habitual vruelty she was living in Salisbury Spith Australia he was in broken hill
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So he had a second wife, any idea of her given names
Cass
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still trying to find out
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It was 1950 when his wife Margaret divorced him (not 1960), so if he married again it was most likely to be between 1950 and 1960. Do you know if he definitely remarried? I can't find any second marriage or death for him but he might have died after 1993 when online records currently stop. Do you know when and where he died? If so a death certificate would give you the information you are looking for i.e. second marriage, children etc.
His WW2 record says he was born in 1915 in Mingenew WA and married Margaret Thelma in 1943, but that is all I can find relating to his birth and first marriage. Did you locate birth and marriage records for these events?
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Name Margaret Thelma Jones
Birth Date Abt 1917-1922
Birth Place South Australia
Registration Year 1917-1922
Registration Place South Australia, Australia
i am sure this is margaret thelma henderson nee jones
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May I suggest that you search via another direction and check what happened to Margaret Thelma Jones.
If you can find her and her William's Children, you MIGHT be able to check via the Kids what happened to William Henderson.
I am not a member of Find My Past however I did a check and found this, maybe it is Margarets birth.
If it is then a search of
https://www.centennialpark.org/memorial-search-list/harold-edgar-jones-58504/
reveals that Harold Edgar Jones died 20.5.1987 and his wife Margaret 21.7.1969.
Should you locate a death/ funeral notice for Harold and or Margaret, you might be luckly and find a reference to Margaret Thelma. I am thinking that she may have remarried, then you could find her death notices, the kids names and continue the search that way.
Cass
Ps just found this in the Saville Index, there is a notice for Harold in the Adelaide Advertiser. If you email the SA Library, you might be lucky to get a copy of his notice,
https://savill.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/#
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just found her father and mother after searching through lots of research thanks for your assistance
margaret thelmas father harold edgar jones died 1987
her mother margaret died in renmark 18th july 1969
it is wiliam james henderson who is elusive
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There is no registered birth for William James Henderson in W A in 1915.
Nor William James Quirk.
His mother's ( Mary Quirk) address (as NOK) changes with in the scope of the WW2 service record from Hurtle Square, Adelaide to Mingenew WA.
Then NOK changes to wife Margaret Thelma in Salisbury S. Aust. She was born 1921 registered at Morphett Vale
Margaret's father was Harold Edgar Jones, a carrier who lived in Salisbury and Kangarilla. There are items in the Trove Newspaer Archive relatiing to his bankruptcy. By the time of his discharge in bankruptcy in 1941, he was an enlisted man. You can see his record. https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/ He died in 1987
Margaret's mother was Margaret MacKay
There was at least one son to this couple , a brother to Margaret named Kenneth Roy who died in 1951.
Although none of this information is helpful in your search,it might might be good to have for your records.
ADDING.I have inadvertantly doubled up on some infromation from Cass in the above post. Apologies.
Sue
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thanks to all who help looking for in formation
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May I suggest that you search via another direction and check what happened to Margaret Thelma Jones.
If you can find her and her William's Children, you MIGHT be able to check via the Kids what happened to William Henderson.
I am not a member of Find My Past however I did a check and found this, maybe it is Margarets birth.
If it is then a search of
https://www.centennialpark.org/memorial-search-list/harold-edgar-jones-58504/
reveals that Harold Edgar Jones died 20.5.1987 and his wife Margaret 21.7.1969.
Should you locate a death/ funeral notice for Harold and or Margaret, you might be luckly and find a reference to Margaret Thelma. I am thinking that she may have remarried, then you could find her death notices, the kids names and continue the search that way.
Cass
Ps just found this in the Saville Index, there is a notice for Harold in the Adelaide Advertiser. If you email the SA Library, you might be lucky to get a copy of his notice,
https://savill.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/#
chronicle only goes up to 1959
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Some details of the death of the brother Kenneth Roy.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/45704652
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130362812
His mother Margaret JONES (Harold's wife) was executrix in his estate.
Sue
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thank you most appreciative for everyones help
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Hi sorry I don't understand
"chronicle only goes up to 1959"
this is the entry I was talking about for Harold Edgar in the Advertiser
Gerald A. Savill Index of The Advertiser Funeral Notices
Jones Harold Edgar 22-May-1987
Cass
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1949 a fire destroyed the home and possessions of the Hendersons. The house was owned by Harold Edgar Jones.
There seems to be an error in the item .. Should grandchildren be children?
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130763242
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i meant when i looked up trove it says dates then top one was up to 1959
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1949 a fire destroyed the home and possessions of the Hendersons. The house was owned by Harold Edgar Jones.
There seems to be an error in the item .. Should grandchildren be children?
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130763242
i am not sure but think the children's names were Robert and Elizabeth wil try and find out for sure
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Nice photo of Kenneth and other siblings headstones
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=med28390020&col=1&cat=149933&rec=34644434
I know I am getting off the track of finding Willian Henderson, but love the search
This SUN has finally come out so of to put the washing on the line
Cass
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A previous engagment for Margaret Thelma. 1940
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47202444
Sue
ADDINg FYI, By the time Ralph Leslie (the fiance above) enlisted in 1943 his mother was his NOK. So seems the marriage did not take place.
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This birth notice is confusing. ???. 1943
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92805761
Here is the other birth
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/35706326
So William James was known as Jim
Sue
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Here is a death in Broken Hill cemetery (source: find a grave) which could be William James Henderson's, but unfortunately no identifying information:
W Henderson
Birth
unknown
Death
unknown
Burial
Broken Hill Cemetery
Broken Hill, Broken Hill City, New South Wales, Australia
Plot
Presbyterian, A, row 3, plot 2
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Here is a death in Broken Hill cemetery (source: find a grave) which could be William James Henderson's, but unfortunately no identifying information:
W Henderson
Birth
unknown
Death
unknown
Burial
Broken Hill Cemetery
Broken Hill, Broken Hill City, New South Wales, Australia
Plot
Presbyterian, A, row 3, plot 2
The person above his name on the list is Sarah who died in 1890. So not so likely
31894 HENDERSON SARAH Presbyterian PRES A 3 2 13-04-1890
31895 HENDERSON W Presbyterian PRES A 3 2
https://www.bhcemetery.com.au/
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A previous engagment for Margaret Thelma. 1940
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47202444
Sue
ADDINg FYI, By the time Ralph Leslie (the fiance above) enlisted in 1943 his mother was his NOK. So seems the marriage did not take place.
much appreciated i do the same i get carried away
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Here is a death in Broken Hill cemetery (source: find a grave) which could be William James Henderson's, but unfortunately no identifying information:
W Henderson
Birth
unknown
Death
unknown
Burial
Broken Hill Cemetery
Broken Hill, Broken Hill City, New South Wales, Australia
Plot
Presbyterian, A, row 3, plot 2
The person above his name on the list is Sarah who died in 1890. So not so likely
31894 HENDERSON SARAH Presbyterian PRES A 3 2 13-04-1890
31895 HENDERSON W Presbyterian PRES A 3 2
https://www.bhcemetery.com.au/
thank you will get onto broken hill council see if they have any in fomration
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Nice photo of Kenneth and other siblings headstones
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=med28390020&col=1&cat=149933&rec=34644434
I know I am getting off the track of finding Willian Henderson, but love the search
This SUN has finally come out so of to put the washing on the line
Cass
cannot see photo , still raining here
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A previous engagment for Margaret Thelma. 1940
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47202444
Sue
ADDINg FYI, By the time Ralph Leslie (the fiance above) enlisted in 1943 his mother was his NOK. So seems the marriage did not take place.
thanks
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:D
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Here is a death in Broken Hill cemetery (source: find a grave) which could be William James Henderson's, but unfortunately no identifying information:
W Henderson
Birth
unknown
Death
unknown
Burial
Broken Hill Cemetery
Broken Hill, Broken Hill City, New South Wales, Australia
Plot
Presbyterian, A, row 3, plot 2
The person above his name on the list is Sarah who died in 1890. So not so likely
31894 HENDERSON SARAH Presbyterian PRES A 3 2 13-04-1890
31895 HENDERSON W Presbyterian PRES A 3 2
https://www.bhcemetery.com.au/
thank you will get onto broken hill council see if they have any in fomration
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Wonder who this is?
Might be worth trying to eliminate.
Death
William James Quirk
Death Date 27 Sep. 1967
Death Place South Australia
Registration Date 1967-1970
Registration Place Australia
Page number 6758
Volume Number 36a
Sue
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Wonder who this is?
Might be worth trying to eliminate.
Death
William James Quirk
Death Date 27 Sep. 1967
Death Place South Australia
Registration Date 1967-1970
Registration Place Australia
Page number 6758
Volume Number 36a
Sue
thank you worth a try
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no relation thanks any way
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Yes. Looks like wrong track.
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thank you very much
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it was worth a try thanks
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I do wonder if he changed his name a bit though.
I tried Jim Quirk, carpenter. No luck
His mother Mary Quirk is a mystery too/
Sue
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she is definitely a mystery
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I could probably help with Harold Edgar's family tree. I'll have to see if William Henderson is on there, as I don't recognise that name at all.
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May I ask why you're interested in Williams history ?
Margaret Thelma(Jones) Henderson remarried as a widower in 1952 to George Brown.
Doesn't say how William Henderson died.