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Title: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: kevingd on Sunday 05 May 24 20:03 BST (UK)
Hi,
I am trying to trace a great uncle Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin.
Family folklore is that he emigrated to Melbourne and worked with horses.
His father was Peter Joseph (1872>1954), his mother Bridget Reilly (1882>C 1913)
I have spent hours trying to track him to no avail and any help or suggestions would be greatly welcomed
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 06 May 24 00:28 BST (UK)
Hello kevingd and welcome to RootsChat.

Victorian births, deaths and marriages are free to search online:
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

There is a death for a Peter Joseph DALY registered at Kyneton, Vic in 1978 aged 72. Unfortunately there are no parent's names recorded on the index which usually means that there may not much information available on the actual certificate. Hard to know what information the informant had unless you purchase the certificate.

You have also posted on the Resources and Offers Board, I'll ask a moderator to move this thread to the general Australia Board.  :D
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Monday 06 May 24 01:16 BST (UK)
Hi, have you any clues on when he travelled to Australia, any stories of him marrying, wife's or children's names.
Any tiny bit of information might help in
finding him.

regards

Cass

 
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: sparrett on Monday 06 May 24 03:01 BST (UK)
Hi,
This is a bit complex, but here goes ;D
A chap named Peter Joseph DALY enlisted in WW2
You can see this file
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/   Search as a guest and enter the full name see digitised documents.

Wrong details (differing from your details given) are his birthdate, his exact place of birth in Ireland.

Right in accordance with your post, horse worker, a stud groom.
 
His NOK is listed as wife Annie who lives at 3 Palermo Street Mentone.

The record details an accident in Melbourne while on duty in 1942 which fractured his leg severely and he was discharged.

ALSO in the file is a letter from Norfolk from a person searching for one of that name for family reasons. Signed P E DALY. Searching for "my uncle"
It is dated1998.

The  details given of the chap being sought in the letter  are
Left UK in 1920's
An address "The Nook" Stud , Nagambie

Wife- Mignon

Daughter- *N......... (edited as I cannot state deceased.)

That he was injured in New Guinea Port Morsby in 1942


A look at the Vic Electoral Roll finds.
1967
DALY, ANNIE MIGNON 3 Palermo Street Mentone
 DALY * N..........  (edited as I cannot state deceased.) 3 Palermo Street Mentone.

From 1962 to 1968
DALY, Peter Joseph "Hollywood" Tilden Rd. Park Manager
No others with him of the name.


* Identical

Sue
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 06 May 24 05:01 BST (UK)
Those details fit with a marriage I saw on Vic BDM for Peter Joseph DALY and
Annie Mignon Mary MEREDITH. Not on my computer atm, so can't check the details or year, though the certificate should show his father's name.
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Monday 06 May 24 05:28 BST (UK)
this looks like Mignon's Grave on Find a Grave

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255088637/mignon-daly died 1993

Cass

ps Sparrett great find on Army records
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: sparrett on Monday 06 May 24 05:30 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D


Yes, I see the marriage now.
Reg 14019/1936

His record gives the exact marriage date 10th Dec 1936

I feel the file has many missing pages. A summary document shows service abroard but there is no paperwork about it.

Sue
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 06 May 24 05:46 BST (UK)
For interest, 3 Palermo St Mentone seems to be Annie's brother's home. Her brother Edward Spencer MEREDITH, a jockey died in 1936 and family notices have this address. eg
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11034193  (1st column, near the middle)

So possibly Peter Joseph and Annie Mignon did not stay together long. I can see her on the 1949 electoral roll at that address.
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Monday 06 May 24 05:47 BST (UK)
this this is Annie Mignon Merediths father's army record WW1

MEREDITH Edward Spencer : Service Number - 4752 : Place of Birth - St Helena South Africa : Place of Enlistment - Melbourne VIC : Next of Kin - (Wife) MEREDITH Annie

follow Sue's previous instruction to read file

Cass
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: valerie kehoe on Monday 06 May 24 06:22 BST (UK)
In case it helps....

'RYERSON INDEX' has 2 newspaper death notices for a Peter Joseph Daly.
 
1.  ''Sydney Morning Herald'' Oct 1992   Peter Joseph Daly 79yrs

2.       "          "            "      Sep 1979      "        "       "     ------

(National Library of Aus (Canberra) will check both death notices for family names)

Valerie
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Monday 06 May 24 06:41 BST (UK)
Hi here are the death notices suggested by Valerie

Cass
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: sparrett on Monday 06 May 24 09:42 BST (UK)
So ;D probably neither of those ,

Looks most likely so far the one Maddy found at Kyneton in 1978.
The E roll entries for him stop around then too.

Sue
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Monday 06 May 24 10:05 BST (UK)
This may be the daughter Marjorie

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255097289/marj-oosterhuis

marriage   
DALY    Marjorie Edith    Marriage   OOSTERHUIS, Hendrik   1959   1006/1959

Cass

Added  just found these

shttps://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/araratadvertiser-au/marjorie-oosterhuis-condolences/196706819

https://www.fredcrouch.com.au/oosterhuis-marjorie-edith/
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 06 May 24 12:01 BST (UK)
Death notice for Marjorie Edith OOSTERHUIS:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/oosterhuis-marjorie-edith/5522518/
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 06 May 24 12:41 BST (UK)
Daughter- *N......... (edited as I cannot state deceased.)
A look at the Vic Electoral Roll finds.
1967
DALY, ANNIE MIGNON 3 Palermo Street Mentone
 DALY * N..........  (edited as I cannot state deceased.) 3 Palermo Street Mentone.
* Identical
Sue

Nanette is now deceased.
Nanette Ethel DALY married Raymond Keith BROWN.

Death notice:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/brown-nanette/3193314/
Cremated at Geelong.
https://opusxi.gct.net.au/deceasedsearch/deceasedsearch.aspx
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: kevingd on Monday 06 May 24 14:55 BST (UK)
Many, many thanks to all that have spent some of their valuable time helping a pomme they don’t know
From the info provided it looks like sparrett has hit the nail on the head
I have checked Irish birth records & non are listed for a Peter (Joseph) Daly on 15 Mar 1910
The letter in the military records from PE Daly I am 99% sure is from an uncle (for some reason he & my father become estranged) & I have never had any real contact with his children, even though I have tried to contact them in the last few years.
I will now look to confirm the info & to trace the grandchildren etc of Peter & Annie & hopefully make contact
Again many thanks, all your help is much appreciated by myself and the wider Daly branch that we are part of
Best wishes
Kevin Daly
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: CassT on Tuesday 07 May 24 00:13 BST (UK)
Hi Kevin, glad to help, the search keeps the mind active

this morning had a another look for notices for Keith Raymond Brown, this could be him, children / grandchildren names also in Nanette Browns notice

 https://www.heraldsun.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/brown-raymond-keith/3708748/

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/tributes/notice/funeral-notices/brown-raymond-keith/3712990/

cass
Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 07 May 24 03:45 BST (UK)
 Good to have a satisfactory result. ;D

I understand the letter in the file to say that the missing man is P. E. Daly,s uncle. Is P. E. still living?

Finding living people in Australia (the grandchildren of Peter Joseph you mention) is not always easy due to the strict privacy laws in place. Certainly worth trying though.

It may help that there are some not so common names involved.

Sue
   





Title: Re: Peter Joseph Daly born 1906 Clondalkin, Dublin
Post by: kevingd on Wednesday 08 May 24 09:16 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
My uncle PE Daly died in 2011
Kev