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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: kelsmell on Sunday 05 May 24 13:21 BST (UK)
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Hi i was hoping for some help on my ancestor’s, i have her marriage & death records, she’s on the 1901 & 1911 Irish census but i can’t find her birth or any siblings she may of had, her Dad’s kinda elusive also.
Her names Mary Ellen Whelan born between 1868 & 1873 in City of Dublin area.
* Mar record full age
* 1901 - dob abt 1871
* 1911 - dob abt 1873
* Death - dob abt 1868
Her parents where Walter Whelan (death pre jul 1893) (Sailor & Lab) & Bridget (Unknown) 1841-1896
There is a marriage of Walter Whelan & Bridget Mollowney 1855 Dub. My Bridget would have been 14y although that couple did have a daughter called Mary in 1859 i dont think the dates work!
Any suggestions, would be greatly received many thanks in advance.
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When was she married and to whom?
Do you have a date of death for her?
Do you have addresses for the 1901 and 1911 censuses?
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Hi, she was Married to Francis O’Connor in 1893 at St Andrews Dublin there address 23 Wicklow st.
1901 - 15 Clarendon St, Dublin
1911 - 46 Clarendon St, Dublin
died 5th Feb 1926, 5 Chatham St, Dublin.
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Her mum Bridget lived at 15 Clarendon St, Dublin 1893 & died 21 Sep 1896 3 Pitt st, Dublin & was buried 23rd Sept Glasnevin age 55y her son in laws on the grave record.
(Mary was also buried at Glasnevin)
There are 2 Walters Whelan deaths i’ve research but neither seems to be quite right -
1. 21 Dec 1886 - Single age 68y (1818) burial record cert differs in age 72y (1814) on death cert Labourer died in workhouse (i have the grave record it also says single)
2. 1865 in Rathdrum age 48 no record online also before daug birth.
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This is the one who died in 1886 - he is married. Is that an error?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06234/4784482.pdf
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Sorry the on burial record - Single age 68y (1818) the person who sorted the grave out was from a hospital & death cert -Married age 72y (1814) so no connection to Bridget or Mary and not sure if he’s single or married. It could very well be him but it unclear.
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Which records do you have her as Mary Ellen?
Ignore - found her death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/05001/4365095.pdf
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1901 - 14 Clarendon St, Dublin
They're at 15 Clarendon Street, Dublin in 1901.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003729665/
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Well thats odd ??? as i have always thought of her as Mary Ellen now looking back through her records its only on her death/burial records she’s Mary Ellen, her granddaughter my Nan was Mary Ellen & i’ve thought she was named after her, but now you’ve pointed that out i can only see after her death the name Ellen turns up!
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Your right 15.4 Clarendon thanks i will correct that.
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Her mum Bridget ......died 21 Sep 1896 3 Pitt st, Dublin...
Bridget (a widow) was living in Pitt Street, but died at the Workhouse, South Dublin Union on 21 September 1896.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05892/4671473.pdf
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The death in 1886 shows Walter’s residence as Luke Street.
Ireland, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1839-1920
Various admissions/discharges - an example - occupation generally a labourer
January 1879 (date smudged) Walter Whelan 61 yrs Coal Porter married 22 Luke Street
Death - 1886 December 21st
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Thats brilliant heywood
it confirms he was married. I do believe I’ve seen that record before many moons ago but didn’t record it or realise how important it was, so the burial record was incorrect. Ive now seen quite a few workhouse records for Walter, Im now going to have a look through the Ireland, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1839-1920 record for any other Whelan’s at Luke st.
Many thanks