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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Welly07 on Sunday 21 April 24 18:25 BST (UK)
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Hello lovely people
Looking for some help finding marriages and any children from some ancestors.
My x3 great grandparents had 9 children all born in the turretts charleville Co Cork.
William carroll and Bridge lennehan had
Edmond 22/06/1902--11/08/22
Anne 20/02/1899 m Patrick Clifford
Jeremiah 21/03/1897--1917 France and
flanders
Patrick 21/05/1889 m Norah Mccarthy
The other children go to new york
Margaret (maggie) 06/06/1895
Ship-New York 9th Dec 1916
William 19/11/1893
Ship-Baltic 15th July 1920
Mary (Minnie) 04/06/1890
Ship-New York 20th March 1913
Cathrine Anne(katie/kitty) 13/12/1887
Ship-20th march 1913
Bridget (Bridie) 10/02/1892
Ship-Adriatic 7th May 1919
Cathrine is travelling with Bridget in 1919 on her married name Morrissey , dont think this
is Bridgets first travel to the USA.
William marries Cathrine Dennehy in New York.
I can't find marriages for Bridget, Mary or
Margaret or any children for them.
Any help finding who they married and any decendents would be much appreciated
Thank you all
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Hi,
Bridget (Bridie) 10/02/1892
Ship-Adriatic 7th May 1919
Isn't this Bridget's return trip to Ireland??
Maureen
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Yeah sorry that was my mistake.
Cant find her first trip there but assuming she's back in the US by 1920 as William has her as his person in the US at an address in brooklyn
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Edmond Carroll died unmarried-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1922/05066/4388570.pdf
Anne Carroll married Patrick Clifford in 1923. He died in 1951 and she in 1969. Irish Genealogy only shows births over 100 years old so if they did have any children their births are now online. Anne was the informant for her husband's death but when Ann died it was her nephew William Carroll so perhaps they have no family, no surviving children or children were not in the area.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09178/5319687.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04494/4180575.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1969/04171/4062490.pdf (nephew William Carrol informant)
Patrick Carroll had at least five children-
1. Mary Bridget (1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01486/1604974.pdf
2. William (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01426/1585286.pdf
3. Jeremiah (1915)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01356/1559412.pdf
4. Kate (1917)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01316/1544006.pdf
5. Patrick (1922)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1922/01158/1483548.pdf
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Bridie's death record from 1929 is here - https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/6008144
She is listed as the wife of James Carnegie. Her gravestone is shown here - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183747036/bridget-carnegie
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I think your date of birth for Margaret may be off (or Margaret may have had it wrong). The passenger list you mentioned has markings on it that indicate Margaret sought naturalization in 1940. The record of detained aliens says she was released to her sister Mrs. Morris Morrissey of 183 West 97th St, New York City, so that might fit with the sister you mentioned.
The naturalization records indicate that Margaret was born 14 May 1898 in County Cork and was married to James Long on 18 May 1919 in Manhattan and they had 4 children. The marriage record for that date has parents that fit with your Margaret. https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/8776138
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Margaret's daughter Theresa's obituary is here - https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news-obituary-for-theresa-m-long/145851088/ All of her siblings predeceased her.
Per Margaret's naturalization record, her children were Daniel b. 12 Oct. 1919, Margaret b. 23 Dec. 1923, Isabelle b. 12 Dec. 1927, and Theresa b. 14 Jun. 1930, all born in NY City.
James, Margaret, & family are in NY City for the 1940 & 1950 census. All the children are there in 1940, and all have moved out except Theresa in 1950. Margaret, James, and Theresa are on the same gravestone as Bridget Carnegie.
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Margaret's obituary lists her as sister of Mary O'Sullivan. https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-news/145855847/
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Thank you all iv spent so long searching for then in NY and kept coming up empty handed.
Didn't know about William carroll the nephew reporting Anne's death. William was my great grandfather and the son of Patrick who stayed in Ireland.
Margaret's birth date is definitely right but iv found alot of ages that don't add up searching my Irish side.
Got me wondering now. What happened to Bridget and why she died so young.
Thank you again
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Got me wondering now. What happened to Bridget and why she died so young.
The cause of death on the death certificate is a bit hard to read, but my guess is acute nephritis and the contributing cause is (something illegible) vomiting of pregnancy.
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In the May 1919 passenger list with Bridget Carroll & Catherine Morrissey, Catherine also has a child Michael J. Morrissey, age 3 with her.
Considering that and the previous mention of Mrs. Morris Morrissey, I think Catherine's husband was the Maurice Morrissey of the naturalization papers here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99HD-T4KC?view=index&action=view The Petition for Naturalization said his wife Catherine died in Ireland on 20 Sep. 1919 and his son Michael was born in NY on 25 Apr. 1916.
Catherine's death record was signed by mother Bridget Carroll. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05134/4414041.pdf
Maurice Morrissey, widowed, age 25, sailed from Southampton to NY on 16 Apr. 1920 and the passenger list shows him going to sister-in-law Margaret Long.
Son Michael's marriage license is here, and his mother is listed as Catherine Carroll - https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/11405423
Michael's obituary is here - https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-jersey-journal-obituary-for-michael/145888049/ The New Jersey death index lists him as born 25 Apr. 1916 and died 22 Nov. 1995 in Secaucus, New Jersey.
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Oh wow thank you for that
Just sad they left for a better life and two of them died so young
Wasn't expecting Catherine to die at home either.
Thank you again