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Title: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Saturday 13 April 24 17:31 BST (UK)
Hi,
This is a curley one.
In the 1911 census Thomas Wilfred Mugridge sometimes spelt Mogridge is with his grandfather.
There is a marraige of a Thomas Mugridge in 1906 BUT the son of his grandfather is too young and I did find a Thomas Mugridge born Totnes in the army in Malta and listed as single.
Before I purchase the certificates I wonder if any of you had any ideas who the parents of Thomas Wilfred Mugridge are.
Cheers
Nigel Payne
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: tazzie on Saturday 13 April 24 17:39 BST (UK)
Hi.

 His baptism in Haberton gives mother as Mary. GRO index has no mothers maiden name so Mary was unmarried.

  Tazzie
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 April 24 18:02 BST (UK)
1891 census for grandparents shows a 4yr old daughter Mary H (Hunter) Mugridge b Harberton.  She is not with them in 1901.  Thomas Mugridge & Mary Ann Hunter married 1880

Mary H married Ernest Thomas Basten (Bastin) in 1920 & died 30.8.1932 aged 45 at the Royal Albert hospital in Plymouth
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Saturday 13 April 24 18:36 BST (UK)
Yes that makes sence.
Mary Hunter Mugridge 1887-1932 is the second eldest child of Thomas Mugridge 1847-1918 and Mar Ann Hunter 1858-1941.
I wonder who the dad was????.
Cheers
Nigel
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 April 24 19:20 BST (UK)
You would have to use the DNA route for that answer
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Saturday 13 April 24 21:07 BST (UK)
Just about to tell my friend the person she thought was her great grandfather is in fact her great uncle and the lady she thought was her great aunt is now her great grandmother.
Many thanks to you all.
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 14 April 24 19:30 BST (UK)

Hi,

It looks like Thomas Wilfred Mugridge's father was richard or William WALKE.

12 December 1907
The Brixham Western Guardian

Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 14 April 24 19:34 BST (UK)


13 December 1907

Exeter and Plymouth Gazette

Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 14 April 24 20:09 BST (UK)

The 1901 and 1911 census has both a Richard and a William living at Higher Broadridge, Cornworthy Tideford, Cornworthy, Totnes, Devon.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSWZ-8FN

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW9C-1LZ


It might be worth contacting SOUTH WEST HERITAGE TRUST: Devon Archive Catalogue to see if they have the original order.

https://devon-cat.swheritage.org.uk/


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 14 April 24 21:09 BST (UK)
You will find Richard on the 1939 register spelt as Walk.  He never married & he died 8.5.1949 & left a will.  He left £9,469 which was a reasonable sum back then.  Might be worth downloading a copy for £1.50 to see whether he left anything to his son Thomas

His address on the probate entry was Lower Tideford Farm - Cornworthy
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Monday 15 April 24 15:48 BST (UK)
Thank you so much.
Your detective work is much appreciated.
I have added him to my friend tree.
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Monday 15 April 24 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi Daiey,
As an order was made against Richard would it not seem logical to rule out William?
Cheers
Nigel
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 April 24 17:18 BST (UK)
I agree - I think it was a typo - his father was William & he had an older brother William Hodge Walke b 1866

Richard was b 1869 so was a lot older than Mary Hunter Mugridge
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 April 24 17:30 BST (UK)
1911 census Mary is a servant aged 23 transcribed as Mary Hunter Meyridge.  Head of household is Henry Peeke
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 April 24 17:34 BST (UK)
Found her in 1901 transcribed as May Mugridge aged 14 - servant to Walter & Philippa Grills
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: Daisypetal on Monday 15 April 24 18:03 BST (UK)
I agree that Richard looks more likely but I mentioned William as he was named in the other newspaper report.
I would like to see the original record to be sure, but I can't find a way to see it.
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Monday 15 April 24 20:54 BST (UK)
Sorry Daisy I did not notice that.
Mmmmm.
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Monday 15 April 24 20:54 BST (UK)
Thank you too Carolew
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Tuesday 16 April 24 19:25 BST (UK)
Hi CaroleW,
Where do I find the probate/will to download for £1.50?.
Cheers
Nigel
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 16 April 24 21:00 BST (UK)
Here's the link to the probate site

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Wednesday 17 April 24 07:47 BST (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Wednesday 17 April 24 07:52 BST (UK)
Hi,
I enetered hid ifo in the site but no results re will probate came up?
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 17 April 24 09:19 BST (UK)
First page

Last name   Walke
First name    Richard
Year of death   1949

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Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: anglosaxton56 on Wednesday 17 April 24 11:55 BST (UK)
Got it.
Thanks
Title: Re: Thomas Wilfred Mugridge 1907-1997
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 17 April 24 18:18 BST (UK)
Be interesting to see if he acknowledges his son in his will