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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: McIverMcIvor on Tuesday 09 April 24 13:10 BST (UK)
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George Wilkinson was born circa 1864 in Haverton Hill and married Alice from Norwich in Norfolk. I am guessing they were married (and buried) at St John's church, Haverton Hill. With such a common surname and Alice's family moving so far to work in the industry surrounding the Tees I'd value any help! Their first child Catherine was born 3/1/1892 and Blanche 10/11/1896 at 43 New Cottages, Port Clarence (near the Transporter) and built by Bell Bros Ltd who George worked for as a locomotive fitter (mechanical) . I've looked on Durham Records online for birth/census information to find George's family to no avail. Any information would be wonderful - but especially their marriage to find Alice's maiden name. Thanks!
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Go here:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
Register (if you haven't already) and choose to search the GRO Online Indexes
They now show Mother's maiden name prior to 1911 (which the old printed index didn't)
A quick look for each name shows Lipthorpe for two girls with these names/ year of births you gave registered in Stockton, so that's looking highly likely.
Boo
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PS FreeBMD has a marriage of Alice Lipthorpe and George Wilkinson in Q3 1890, Stockton
Boo
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Thanks! And for the resources too ..... new to searching!
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We were all new to searching at one time :-) Finding out about how and where to look is half the battle,I'm pleased to be able to help a bit.
When you search on that GRO site, you only see the index of the registration. If you click in the circle next to the likely name you find there are three options for the details, an official certificate ( £11) A pdf image from the register (£7 ) (though the available years are limited, read the FAQs)
OR a digital copy available instantly online for £2.50. :-)
Though sometimes the digital images have been scanned skew-whiff, its my personal first choice as its not only a lot cheaper but I don't have to wait. They give all the details from an official cert the only thing you don't get is a posh piece of paper.
If the scan has been scanned incorrectly so you can't see the entire entry the GRO will refund your payment.
Boo
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Durham Records Online is a privately owned transcription site, and to a large degree focusses on pre-Civil Registration (i.e. 1837) records.
To find out what they have available click on ‘What We Offer’ top left of the home page, then take a look at either Parish Records or Census Records.
I've looked on Durham Records online for birth/census information to find George's family to no avail.
If indeed they did marry, or were buried at Haverton Hill you will look in vain on Durham Records Online, as they currently only have 1866 - 1872 baptisms and burials for that parish.
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According to trees online, George was the son of John Wilkinson, b 1837 in Billinghay, Lincolnshire (died 1893 in Aukland, Durahm),
and Mary Robinson, b 1843 in Gateshead.
John's parents were Bailey (1810-1891) and Margaret Cowling (1811-1876).
If correct, Margaret's ancestry goes back to 1570 in Lincolnshire.
David
P.S. Other trees have him born 1858 in Egglescliffe, Durham, to John Wilkinson (1818-1877)and Mary Ann Morely (1821-1899)
The 1921 Census has George born in Billingham Parish.
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1871 Census in Billingham: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZX-LB1
David
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DCB mentioned the 1871 census on Family Search, unsure if you are aware that you need to be signed in to search and view on there. Registration is free and easy to do.
https://www.familysearch.org
Once you have done that and signed in you will be able to view the link he posted
and here's a few more
1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7R39-2ZM
1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSC3-CQV
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWH6-VTG
The images aren't available to see but they have transcripts of the census returns and will tell you the basic facts.
Making a note of where they were (and the census references Piece, Folio, Page which will help you find the images on a subscription site such as Ancestry or Find My Past - or your local library may have access to one or both of those on their in-house computers.
Not as convenient as looking from home, but a lot cheaper :-)
I would recommend not relying on transcripts and trying to view original images wherever possible, then taking things a step at a time making sure that you are on the right lines before going back a generation. Especially with a fairly common name its easy to take a wrong turn and latch onto the wrong family
Boo
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Going through the censuses and GRO index, George's mother was Mary Charlton.
John , son of William Wilkinson, and Mary, daughter of George Charlton, married on 10th June 1860 in Stockton.
John was baptised on 3rd June 1838, in Billinghay, Lincolnshire, son of William and Elizabeth.
Trees vary on his mother, but one has Clarke and there is a John, mmn Clarke, in Sleaford District in 1838.
Sleaford is 10 miles from Billinghay and so could be correct.
There is a marriage of William to Elizabeth Clarke in Billinghay on 20th November, 1813, although quite early for John's birth date.
David
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Thanks everyone for your time! And pointers to resources and for your advice. I had no idea it was possible to find out so much.
I'll now head for the library and then the GRO for images of the original documents.
Heather
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Another good free site is FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk
The 1813 Marriage is on there and seems correct as WILLIAM/ELIZABETH Wikinson bapt Billinghay;
William 1815
Thomas 1817
Elizabeth 1819
Ann 1825 poss buried 1829, infant
Fanny 1829
Joseph 1831
JOHN 1838
Burial for WILLIAM 05 Jul 1868 age 79 (1789)
And ELIZABETH buried 26 Nov 1871 age 79 (1792)
1861 in Billinghay we have;
William Wilkinson 72 Head Mar Formerly Labourer born Monark, Nottinghamshire (Newark)
Elizabeth Wilkinson 69 Wife Mar
Betsy Wilkinson 42 Daughter Unm
Joseph Wilkinson 29 Son Unm born
Elizabeth/Betsy/Joseph born Billinghay
1841 we have;
William Wilkinson 50 Ag Lab, not born in County
Elizabeth Wilkinson 45
William Wilkinson 25
Eliza Wilkinson 25
James Wilkinson 15
Fanny Wilkinson 11
Joseph Wilkinson 9
JOHN Wilkinson 3*****
Trish :)
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Thanks!
Elizabeth married likely at 21 then ..... and William married 28 miles from where he was born.
So all I need is the original 1871 census to confirm Billinghay was transcribed correctly to the records ..... and my story goes back two generations.
Teesside was certainly a magnet with all the industry.
Heather
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I was firkling round old newspapers earlier and this caught my eye. I knew I'd seen this combination of surnames before and thanks to the search facility in Rootschat I've now found the thread.
Fingers crossed that Heather will see this and find it of interest.
Daily Gazette for Middlesborough, 24 Sept 1940, page 2, col 1
GOLDEN WEDDINGS
WILKINSON - LIPTHORPE -- September
24th 1890, at St John's Church, Haverton
Hill, by the Rev.J.A. Lodge (vicar).
George Wilkinson to Alice Lipthorpe. Present address 43 Bell-street, Port Clarence.
Boo