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Title: 1861 Census
Post by: lengramar on Monday 08 April 24 14:52 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for details of an ancestor of mine, his name is Enoch Ogden b. 1850 in Manchester, His parents were Benjamin Ogden and Mary Whitehead. I can find him on various census but not on the 1861 census.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards Graham Ogden
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 08 April 24 15:01 BST (UK)
Could he be with his grandparents?
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: lengramar on Monday 08 April 24 15:05 BST (UK)
Hi, I suppose it is possible but I still am unable to trace him.

Regards
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 08 April 24 15:07 BST (UK)
Have you found both sets of grandparents in 1861 (if still alive of course)
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: lengramar on Monday 08 April 24 15:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

Only found 1 set of grandparents but he isn't living with them. I am not sure of the second set of grandparents.

Regards
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: DCB on Monday 08 April 24 16:21 BST (UK)
Some trees have him living with Henry and Sarah Ogden, as their son, in 1861.

I can only see one Enoch's birth in the correct year, mmn Whitehead.

Could they be his relatives?

David
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 08 April 24 16:29 BST (UK)
I can only see one Enoch in 1861 with a Henry and Sarah and he is 4

OGDEN, ENOCH       mmn HOWARD 
GRO Reference: 1856  Sept Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 449
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 08 April 24 16:30 BST (UK)
LancashireOPC has the baptisms for both Enochs
Baptism: 9 Sep 1849 St Peter, Blackley, Lancashire
Enoch Ogden - Son of Benjamin Ogden & Mary
    Born: 28 Aug
    Abode: Blackley
    Occupation: Labourer
   

Baptism: 4 Jun 1857 St Margaret of Antioch, Hollinwood, Lancashire
Enoch Ogden - Son of Henry Ogden & Sarah
    Born: 20 Jun 1856
    Abode: Hollinwood
    Occupation: Labourer
   
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 08 April 24 16:56 BST (UK)
I assume that you have seen what looks like his parents in 1861, visitors at the house of Thomas Morris in Liverpool? No Ogden children at that address.

Added:
On the other hand this looks like mother Mary with three of the children, but no husband Benjamin and no Enoch.

RD Manchester
ED 3
piece 2975
folio 46
schedule number 60

Mary Ogden 44
Sophia Horridge 21 (the first child, present in 1841 census)
Mary Ann Ogden 17
Benjamin Ogden 16
Title: Re: 1861 Census
Post by: lengramar on Monday 08 April 24 17:47 BST (UK)
Hi,

Many thanks for the info, it seems that he did not get onto the 1861 census for some reason.

Regards Graham