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Title: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Sunday 07 April 24 14:06 BST (UK)
A lady who I was researching seems to have used a false surname when getting married. Furthermore she is registered as living in two different places in the 1881 census. According to this census she is still living with her father and his family under her maiden and true surname and she is also registered as living with her husband with her married name. The marriage took place within the last 12 months before the census was carried out. She was also only in her mid-teens when she got married. Does anyone have an explanation for this?. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 April 24 18:05 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat  :)

Are you willing to tell us who you are talking about and where she is in 1881 in case it is relevant to our reply.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: Marmalady on Sunday 07 April 24 18:11 BST (UK)
Not everyone totally understood the instructions for filling in census forms
So yes, you can get fathers filling in all their children whether still living at home, left home and living elsewhere or even deceased

Or alternatively, she could have been on a visit back to her parents house on census night so entered there but her husband also entered her on their home form too.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: heywood on Sunday 07 April 24 18:18 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.
Census records show who was in the house on the census night.
The person may have been visiting and recorded by her family with her birth name or included accidentally as part of the family.

Sorry for the repetition - talking and clicking at the same time!
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: MollyC on Sunday 07 April 24 19:44 BST (UK)
I have a man recorded in 1881 in Sheffield with his wife and family, as "patternmaker (unemployed)".  He also appears in a lodging house in Erith, Kent as "patternmaker from wks" with several other skilled workmen also "from wks".

He had taken a job at the Woolwich Arsenal, this error usefully shows when he started there and we know the family followed and remained there.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 April 24 19:47 BST (UK)
My grandmother was listed twice on one census- once at home with her parents and once with her grandparents. Her cousin appeared three times in the next census- 1) at home, 2) with relatives, 3) new address where he moved at the time the census was taken.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Monday 08 April 24 14:28 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat  :)

Are you willing to tell us who you are talking about and where she is in 1881 in case it is relevant to our reply.

Thank you for responding. Sorry for the lack of personal details. It is just that I am a bit of a fusspot when it comes anonymity. Furthermore, the surnames of those involved are very common and I thought they would not be of much use. And it is because the surnames are so common that I have made mistake. It turns out that what I originally thought was one person is in fact two to three different people!.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Monday 08 April 24 14:35 BST (UK)
Not everyone totally understood the instructions for filling in census forms
So yes, you can get fathers filling in all their children whether still living at home, left home and living elsewhere or even deceased

Or alternatively, she could have been on a visit back to her parents house on census night so entered there but her husband also entered her on their home form too.

Thank you Marmalady for your response. Because the surname of the lady in question is so common it turns that this one person is in fact two to three different people. I made a mistake. But I appreciate you taking the trouble to reply. Hopefully this will not happen again.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Monday 08 April 24 14:39 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.
Census records show who was in the house on the census night.
The person may have been visiting and recorded by her family with her birth name or included accidentally as part of the family.

Sorry for the repetition - talking and clicking at the same time!

No need to apologise. I appreciate the fact that you responded to my question. It turns out that I have  made a mistake. This one person is in fact two to three different people. A consequence of looking for someone with a common surname living in a large city.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Monday 08 April 24 14:46 BST (UK)
I have a man recorded in 1881 in Sheffield with his wife and family, as "patternmaker (unemployed)".  He also appears in a lodging house in Erith, Kent as "patternmaker from wks" with several other skilled workmen also "from wks".

He had taken a job at the Woolwich Arsenal, this error usefully shows when he started there and we know the family followed and remained there.


Thank you for this information MollyC and it would have been sufficient to answer my question had I not made a mistake. Because the surname of the lady I was looking for is very common and she was living in a big city it turns out that they were different people!.
Title: Re: Two strange occurrences. Has anybody else come across this?.
Post by: aukington on Monday 08 April 24 14:57 BST (UK)
My grandmother was listed twice on one census- once at home with her parents and once with her grandparents. Her cousin appeared three times in the next census- 1) at home, 2) with relatives, 3) new address where he moved at the time the census was taken.

Thank you for your response aghadowey. This information would have helped if I had not misinterpreted census and marriage information to the point of thinking two or even three individuals was one person. But your reply is much appreciated.