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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: Peter Cornwell on Saturday 06 April 24 11:32 BST (UK)
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Can somebody please help me with the reported marriages of Harriet Anne HOY(E) born Q3 1841 in Little Newton, Cambs.
The daughter of Edward HINKINS-HOYE a farm labourer (born Elmdon c1791) & Ann (THARBY), she was baptised on 10 Oct 1841 and left home sometime before 1861 when she is found living with her married sister Emma SPENCER & her husband in George Street, New Town, Cambridge. She was married from that address on 1 Apr 1862 to George CORNWELL in Cambridge Register Office. That much seems secure but I’ve been unable to establish what subsequently happened to George.
A second marriage to George Edward JONES was registered in Cambridge Q4 1868 and in 1911 they are found living together at Fair View, High Street, Harston, Cambs. He was a retired railway engineer (ex-Indian Civil Service) which may explain their apparent absence from any UK records between those dates.
However, the plot thickens. For another marriage reportedly took place in Ferozepore, Bengal, India, on 14 November 1878 when recorded as 'Annie CORNWELL d of Edward INKINS-HOYE' she wed James Walter ANTHONY then serving with the 1st Batallion, Suffolk Regiment, (Source: LDS). They returned to England sometime prior to 1891 when found living at 1 Saxham Road, Bury St Edmunds. James remarried Q3 1895 so Harriet had presumably died by then although, once again, I’m unable to establish exactly when & where. So many loose ends.
I would be most grateful for any confirmation of the 1868 and 1878 marriages cited above. If you are able to help in some way – many thanks.
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A second marriage to George Edward JONES was registered in Cambridge Q4 1868 and in 1911 they are found living together at Fair View, High Street, Harston, Cambs.
This information doesn’t fit with what you say later about her death. Typo? or am I missing something?
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Hi
Here's the 1878 marriage
14 Nov 1878 Furzepore
James Walter Anthony 36 bach Sargt Not fixed 85th Reg passing through to Muttan James Walter Anthony
Annie Cornwall widow 37K.L.J. father Edward Inkins-Hoye dec
wit W Weaver and Henry Plane By licence.
Curious and curiousier
Son James Edward Anthony born 3 .9.1882 Madras address Newtown no occupation for father James .Mother Annie.
Ciderdrinker
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AlanBoyd,
No, you haven't missed anything - it's all part and parcel of the general confusion in this case. I did say that Harriet had 'presumably died' prior to her husband James' remarriage in 1895. But there are (clearly?) two separate lines of inquiry concerning the one (& only) Harriet HOY born in Little Newton 1841 that I tried to present separately.
ciderdrinker,
Thanks for the confirmation. Any idea what the K.L.J. signifies? James had enlisted in the 1st Battalion, Suffolk Regiment, and was living at Roorkee when admitted to Beauchamp Lodge of the Freemasons on 2 Jul 1884. He was still a Sergeant on his discharge from the army on 20 Apr 1886.
Thank you both for your input - much appreciated.
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the K L I probably refers to James - the King's Regiment of Light Infantry/85th Regiment
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/85th-or-kings-regiment-light-infantry-bucks-volunteers
who were in India from 1868
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Get the marriage certificate of 1868 It's the only way to find out her fathers name.
A John and Marianne also had a daughter Harriet during the same time period
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This looks like a possible death for George Cornwell in India
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGVX-54D
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Many thanks to osprey, amondg, & Mabel Bagshawe for their replies. The possible death of George CORNWELL in India is especially helpful as it offers an explanation as to how & why Harriet remarried there. It starts to look increasingly likely that Harriet's (supposed) second marriage reported in Cambridge Q4 1868 was a complete red herring although the 1911 Census for Harston did appear to support the fact. Still some fettling to do but I'm now feeling a lot more comfortable about things. Thanks again to all who responded.
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There is a baptism for a Harriet Cornwell in Cambridge 30 january 1842, parents Philip and Ann. Could she have been the Harriet who married Edward Jones in 1868. The marriage certificate should tell you who her father was.
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emeltom,
Thank you for the suggestion. As far as I know that Harriet CORNWELL never married but I will certainly look into it. Thanks again.
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I'm wondering if there was some tales being told at one point, if that death for George Cornwell is correct. The 1868 marriage does indeed look like your Harriet
Found this - records of the 23rd Brigade of the Royal Regiment of Artillery
Gunner George Jones, bachelor
Harriet Ann Cornwell, widow [transcribed as Harrutt Ann Cormoell on Ancestry]
Marriage 30 Dec 1868, Cambridge
Maybe she went out to India with solder husband no 2 - although it doesn't explain why she married no 3 as Cornwell
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Mable Bagshawe,
Rats! Just when I was starting to feel more comfortable about things. Nevertheless, many thanks for this intriguing further line of enquiry. I have ordered the 1868 marriage certificate that will (hopefully) resolve a question or two. Bear with ...
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The marriage certificate duly arrived confirming beyond doubt that I am indeed dealing with one & the same lady. She married in Zion Chapel, East Road, Cambridge, on 30 Dec 1868: George JONES 23 Bachelor Gunner Royal Artillery son of Edward Duddin JONES an engine driver & Harriett Anne CORNWELL 27 Widow daughter of Edward HOYE a labourer. Address of both given as Calcutta Cottage, Mill Road, Cambridge. Witnesses: Charles SPENCER & Inez Harriet CARTWRIGHT.
Harriet HOY was baptised in St Margaret’s Church, Newton, Cambs. on 10 Oct 1841 the daughter of Edward Hinkins HOY & Ann THARBY who were married in Thriplow on 23 Apr 1825. I suspect that she was the unnamed female HOY whose birth was registered in Chesterton district Q3 1841 with mmn recorded as HARVEY (sic)? Her subsequent history remains as outlined in my original post.
Her second husband, George Edward JONES, later left the RA to work for the India Public Works Dept being appointed to the State Railways Loco Dept in May 1879 and retired in Apr 1904 as Locomotive Superintendent. I believe that they returned from Calcutta to England on 20 Apr 1909 and by 1911 they were living at Fair View, High Street, Harston, Cambs. Her death was probably that registered in Cambridge Q4 1916.
Yet my questions remain unresolved. A ‘widow’ on her second marriage in 1868 but I have been unable to identify a likely death for George CORNWELL beyond that recorded two years later in Bengal 1870 as suggested in Reply #2 to this thread. Even more intriguing, what am I to make of her apparent third marriage (once again as the widow CORNWELL) to James ANTHONY in Furzepore on 14 Nov 1878? They returned to England sometime prior to 1891 when they are found living at Aden Villas, 1 Saxham Road, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.
I think it will take somebody with better access to military records than I currently enjoy to further unravel this conundrum. If you can help then feel free for, at present, I am well & truly scuppered.