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Title: Description of a coat of arms
Post by: French pat on Saturday 30 March 24 20:25 GMT (UK)

Hello, French fellow here.
 
I look for the blazon of two coats of arms I found in a family tree drawn in 1962. I also wonder wether those two coats of arms look authentic to you or not.

The first one is the coat of arms of Raphael Brandon Rodriguez, my ancestor, who fled Inquisition in Portugal, and arrived in England in 1750.

I don’t know if Brandon was already part of his name, or if he added it after his migration. I guess the coat of arms which figures a firebrand is related to the name. 

What about the palms, the candles and the knight’s helmet? Do they have any signification?

Do these coat of arms look French or Bristish to you? I ask because the family moved from England to France in 1860 and maybe those coats have been drawn in France

The second coat is the one of Raphael’s wife, Mary Ann Hunter who was apparently admitted to George III’s court.

Sorry for any English mistake!

Title: Re: Description of a coat of arms
Post by: Zaphod99 on Wednesday 08 October 25 22:48 BST (UK)

https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossa.htm

Search for "arrow", it might help.

It's a shame the other one doesn't have "four candles"!

The American Academy of General Practice, uses the image of a snake curled around a torch.

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/fpm/issues/2008/0100/p6.html

Later update: to blazen these arms my attempts would be

"in fess, three candles lighted proper.  A flambeau enflamed wrapped about by a serpent proper, armed and langued".

The one with the arrow would be "an arm embowed and gauntleted,  holding a downward arrow". The arm could possibly be said to be vambraced rather than gauntleted.

I'm not an expert, just an enthusiastic amateur trying to help.  Are better-quality images available?

Zaph

Title: Re: Description of a coat of arms
Post by: Zaphod99 on Thursday 09 October 25 16:29 BST (UK)

Updated.

Zaph

Title: Re: Description of a coat of arms
Post by: French pat on Friday 10 October 25 08:22 BST (UK)

Hi Zaph and thanks for your kind response.
I'll update the images this WE with better quality if possible.

TIs great to see how you blasened those.
Do you know if any of the arms items has a special signification?
For example what was your reference to the four candles, as a French I do not get it.