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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: tempogold on Saturday 30 March 24 14:39 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I have tried unsuccessfully to find a death record for Julia Isum ( sometimes spelt ISOM) . Born in 1812 Co Kerry maiden name was Castles. Married Richard Isum in 1836. He died 29 Aug 1882 Skibbereen age 80. On the Ireland Valuation Record for 1824-1856 the family are living at Castletownsend in West Carbery
On the entry for him on the Irish Genecology site it sated he was married at the time of his death. But i can not find any Death record for this wife. The family was Church Of Ireland.
grateful for any help.
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There is a death in 1883, Barrow in Furness
Julia Isum 69 yrs
Did any family live there?
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FindMyPast shows a burial Walney St Mary for Julia Isum?
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All would fit with the Coastguard occupations
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Hello, yes I saw that death but admit I dismissed it. Not aware that she ever left Ireland . Although 3daughters did. But the one that went to Cheshire died in 1882. Another daughter was in the South of England and one in Kent and I know Julia was not with her. Will need to revisit. Thank you
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I think I saw at least one daughter married to a Coastguard so wondered if there was a placement there around that time.
It is an unusual name so the chances are very favourable.
You can order a digital copy of the death for £2.50.
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There is this birth:
June quarter 1883 Barrow in Furness
Frank Herbert Allport mmn Isum
As you will know , daughter Julia Isum married George Allport - Naval rather that Coastguard though.
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Thank you, Have ordered a Pdf copy of death from GRO and keeping fingers crossed. It would be wonderful to find out a bit more.
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Please let us know. I would be surprised if it was not her- no other person of that name, daughter living there at the right time, it seems too much to be a coincidence.
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church records
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
Church records Richard Isum and Julia Castle, Dingle kerry say richard from England
Civil records death of Richard says he was a Coastguard pensioner
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church records
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
Church records Richard Isum and Julia Castle, Dingle kerry say richard from England
Civil records death of Richard says he was a Coastguard pensioner
He died 29 Aug 1882 Skibbereen age 80.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06389/4834596.pdf
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t3l/
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=k-486-1-3-032
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I hope the death certificate arrives soon :)
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So do I, tempogold and let us know what's on it! :)
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Hello and thank you for your Interest and help. So pleased I asked about Julia .
Yes Julia Isum nee Castles died in England not Ireland and was either visiting or living with her daughter Julia and family in Barrow in Furness at the time of her death. She died age 69 on 26 January 1883 at their home 1 Teasdale road Walney Barrow in Furness . Her son in law George Allport was the informant . The Allport family have further postings in England before returning to Cork Ireland . George and Julia Allport died in Courtmacsherry Co Cork ( Julia 1912 and George 1913) .
Thank you all .
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I’m so glad you asked too. :)
That Allport birth was very useful in confirming it.
Best wishes.
Heywood
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Her son in law George Allport was the informant . The Allport family have further postings in England before returning to Cork Ireland . George and Julia Allport died in Courtmacsherry Co Cork ( Julia 1912 and George 1913) .
...and here they are in the 1911 census with their daughter Laura M Allport, born in South Wales.
House 16 in Courtmacsherry Town (Courtmacsherry, Cork).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Courtmacsherry/Courtmacsherry_Town/381728/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001841650/
FreeBMD - https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Birth Jan-Mar 1882
ALLPORT Laura Mabel Gower 11a 727
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George and Julia Allport arrived back in Ireland before the 1901 census of 31 March.
House 3 in Crosshaven Village (Templebrady, Cork).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Templebrady/Crosshaven_Village/1121064/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000537902/
With them was their grandson Frank G ? Warren (born in Co Cork).
Birth 2 August 1897 at Crosshaven. His mother Selena Louisa Allport.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02100/1800331.pdf
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Selina Allport married Frank Warren on 2 July 1896. Frank a lance corporal in the Royal Engineers stationed at Fort Camden, Crosshaven. Selina living at the Coastguard Station, Crosshaven. Her father George the Chief Officer of H M Coastguard.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10503/5825386.pdf
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1901 census - Allport sisters. Julia born in Carmarthenshire, Laura born in Glenmorganshire [sic].
House 15 in Grange (Ballygroman, Cork).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Ballygroman/Grange/1090932/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000495218/
FreeBMD
Birth Oct-Dec 1876
ALLPORT Julia Edith Llanelly 11a 769
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Thank you . The sad thing is their brother Frank Herbert Allport born in Barrow in Furness dies in 1902. He had joined the Royal Navy. Service number 203131. He died of Enteric Fever in Nauplia Greece. his last ship was the Hood .
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Death and Service record on find my past
http://www.findmypast.co.uk
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Thank You
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Birth Jan-Mar 1882
ALLPORT Laura Mabel Gower 11a 727
Laura Mabel Allport married Edward Jervis Jeffers (a police constable) on 12 December 1914 at Lislee Parish Church. Laura living at Courtmacsherry.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09868/5584465.pdf
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Children of the Jeffers/Allport marriage.
Edith Margaret Jeffers born 2 April 1916 at Mitchelstown.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01342/1553869.pdf
Dorothy Mary Jeffers born 10 May 1918 at Mitchelstown.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01278/1529845.pdf
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Further to reply #22, possible births of a further three daughters - Hitchin, Hertfordshire:
Birth Oct-Dec 1923
Jeffers Laura M Allport Hitchin 3a 1163
Birth Jan-Mar 1925
Jeffers Rhoda V Allport Hitchin 3a 1180
Birth Jul-Sep 1926
Jeffers Lilian K Allport Hitchin 3a 1187
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Sorry have been away. Always a treat to come back to new information. Many thanks. Hope the sun is out in your part of the world.
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Indeed it is - it's been a marvellous day and very sunny. :D