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Seeking information about Mary PINCOCK from Euxton, Lancashire. She was the unmarried mother of Richard PINCOCK who was born 1912. Roger THOMPSON was Richard's father. He was born 1788 Euxton and was ordered to pay maintenance at the petty sessions. I have Roger on the 1841 and 1851 Census at Pear Tree Lane Euxton but no further information on Mary. Can anyone help please?
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Doubt Roger was born 1788 & fathered a son in 1912 😂
Also - no Richard Pincock birth 1912
Can you please clarify & amend your dates to avoid confusion
Suspect you mean 1812 but by 1841 Mary could have married. Have you checked www.familysearch.org
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Typing error!!!! Richard PINCOCK born 1812!!
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I've asked the moderator to move your post to the Lancashire board
I notice Richard is in Wigan in 1841 - there is a marriage on 30.3. 1819 at All Saints Wigan between Mary Pincock & William Davis
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From Carole's details above:
Marriage: 30 Mar 1819 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire
William Davis - (X), Parish of Wigan
Mary Pincock - (X), Parish of Wigan
Witnesses: William Marshs; Saml. Vizard
Married by Banns by Benjamin Powell curate
Register: Marriages 1816 - 1819, Page 220, Entry 658
Source: LDS Film 1885691
www.lan-opc.org.uk
Monica
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From what I can find, there was actually only 1 Mary Pincock baptised in Euxton in the right time period:
Mary, daughter of Richard & Ann Pincock, baptised 5th May 1776 in Euxton.
Father is Richard, which could explain why she named her son that. Would make her a bit older than Roger, which is perhaps unusual, but not unheard of.
Queenie :)
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I'm wondering whether this could be Mary? ???
Mary, wife of William Davis, buried on 11th August 1829 in Wigan, Lancashire. Her abode is given as Scholes, her age at death given as 51, making her born c.1778.
Unfortunately, Mary, William and Davies/Davis are all common names.
Queenie :)
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Thank you for the new information. It is very helpful. Where did you find Mary's baptism?
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Marriage, 27 August 1838, Wigan
Richard Pincock + Margaret Hill (residence Hallgate)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCQS-6FG
Baptism, same day, 27 August 1838
Mary, 1st Daughter of Margaret Hill
Abode Hallgate
Born 13 Aug
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-RC36-XM
Burial, 3 November 1839
Mary, Daughter of Richard Pincock
Abode Hallgate
Age 14 months
Meazles
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9Y9-GZNL
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Thank you for your help. I have all this information on Richard Pincock. The question arose when he gave his father's name at his marriage, as Roger Thompson. With alot of research over a long period of time I have established that Richard's parents were Roger Thompson and Mary Pincock. In order to proceed with more generations, I am seeking help in trying to discover Mary's parents and anything about her life and whereabouts. I have found Roger living with his sister on 1841 and 1851 Census. In 1838 Richard must have known of his father to give a name to the registrar. Still searching for any info regarding Roger's parents, possibly Thomas and Jane from Euxton, Lancs.
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Thank you for the new information. It is very helpful. Where did you find Mary's baptism?
I am looking at a scan of the Euxton parish register (available on both of the main family history subscription sites):
"Mary, daughter of Richard and Ann Pincock of Euxton, baptised the 5th of May [1776]"
Transcription can be viewed here:
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Euxton/parishchurch/baptisms_1774-1796.html
Queenie :)
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Richard Pincock, weaver, and Anne Bamber of this parish, spinster, married 21st February 1773 in Leyland, Lancashire.
Queenie :)
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Thank you looking up this information. Am just contemplating how likely it is that Richard was 12 years younger than Mary when he fathered her child... ???
I have found Roger living with his sister Jane and 3 of her illegitimate children!
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Am just contemplating how likely it is that {Roger} was 12 years younger than Mary when he fathered her child... ???
I assume you meant Roger, so I changed it.
Just my opinion, but I don't think people were as preoccupied with their age as we are now. I mean, I assume people had a general idea of when they were born, but I'm not sure they really would have cared that much. I mean, he was a man and she was a woman (not wanting to be crude!) ;D
I suppose we may never know for certain, unless there is DNA evidence. However, I don't really see any other options for her baptism and there is also the Richard connection.
Queenie :)
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Yes, thank you. I think you are right. Excuse mistakes, I have flu at the moment so I think the temperature is getting the better of me!!
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Who is this one? :-\
From Lancashire OPC
Burial 16 June 1791, St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire
Mary Pincock
Daughter of Richard Pincock
Abode Eccleston
Register: Burials 1790 - 1803, Page 4, Entry 20
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Oh, goodness knows ??? A pity there is no age. Of course the further back we go, I am less confident. Unless there are other cross references available then guess work becomes involved. Up to now I have only recorded members of my family tree where I am 99.9% certain.
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Who is this one? :-\
From Lancashire OPC
Burial 16 June 1791, St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire
Mary Pincock
Daughter of Richard Pincock
Abode Eccleston
Register: Burials 1790 - 1803, Page 4, Entry 20
Hmm... certainly throws a spanner in the works.
Only other baptisms I can see in Lancashire are these, both in Leyland:
Mary, daughter of Adam and Mary Pincock of Euxton on 21st January 1776.
Mary, daughter of Robert and Ellen Pincock of Euxton on 3rd April 1796 - this one would make her only 16 when Richard was born.
If only we had a better idea of her age. Shame the burial does not give an age either.
Queenie :)