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Title: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: Cienna on Tuesday 19 March 24 23:54 GMT (UK)

Hi,

I am trying to find children for Charles and Eliza SPARROW, (maiden name unknown), they did have one son that I know of and his name was also Charles, born 5 January 1835, Belfast, Antrim, Ireland, died 1882 in Belfast.

Thank You

Cienna.
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Wednesday 20 March 24 11:42 GMT (UK)
I searched for Sparrow marriages in the Belfast area 1855-1875 but only found this one which is presumably Charles junior:

8264049.pdf (irishgenealogy.ie) (The link doesn't seem to be accessible so you may need to look the marriage up on irishgenealogy, if you don't already have it. 1865.

The family are in the City Cemetery:

Charles William died 20.3.1954
Mary Jane 4.5.1950
Charles 5.1.1882
Eliza 4.2.1881 aged 75 (his mother perhaps?)
Charles 9.2.1909
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 20 March 24 12:21 GMT (UK)
Charles Sparrow died Belfast workhouse in 1882 aged 47 and was a widower and was a artist.

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 March 24 13:22 GMT (UK)
In a letter to The Belfast Weekly Telegraph, 14 Jan 1882, drawing attention to Chas Sparrow's treatment on admission to the Workhouse Hospital, the writer ( a near neighbour in Church Street) refers to the deceased leaving "three helpless orphans unprovided for".
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 March 24 13:39 GMT (UK)
For reference-
Death of Charles Sparrow-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06416/4842786.pdf

Marriage of Charles Sparrow (sculptor) & Elizabeth Logan (1865)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11587/8264049.pdf

Death of Elizabeth Sparrow (1872)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020750/7279686.pdf

Marriage of Charles Sparrow (widower, statue manufacturer) & Elizabeth Pullar (1874)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11250/8125904.pdf

Death of Elizabeth Sparrow (1880)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06461/4857913.pdf

Marriage of Charles Sparrow (patternmaker) in 1899-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10386/5781664.pdf
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: Cienna on Wednesday 20 March 24 21:11 GMT (UK)

Thank you all for your input, I can now focus on marriages for the children of Charles Sparrow and Mary Jane Campbell, haven't had much luck, back to t he grindstone.

Regards

Cienna.
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 March 24 21:34 GMT (UK)
Much of the information I posted here earlier was actually found on another thread which you started on 1 March-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=880809.0

Charles William Sparrow and Mary Jane seem to have had four children- Robert (1900), Emma (1902), Charles (1906), Margaret (1912).

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Margaret Sparrow born 3 December 1912.   MMN Campbell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01465/1597701.pdf
Marriage - https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
M/1940/B1/484/3/57   Margaret   Sparrow   William Kirker   2nd September 1940   Belfast
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: Cienna on Thursday 21 March 24 03:13 GMT (UK)

Thank you, aghadowey I only had 3 children for them, I was missing Charles, do you know if there are any marriages for the children?

Regards

Cienna
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 21 March 24 08:18 GMT (UK)
On page 1 of the other thread some details for 1911 census are listed (not sure why poster omitted some things and/or didn't post a link). Here is the link-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Rosewood_Street/146947/

You've already been given marriage for Margaret (twice).

Irish Genealogy only has vital records for Northern Irish counties up to 1921 and after that date you need to check GRONI's site (which is where Margaret Sparrow's marriage was found).

Possible marriage for Charles (you'd need to view registration to verify-
M/1940/B1/644/8/3   Charles   Sparrow   McConnell   20th June 1940   Belfast

Not sure is this record was mentioned before? stillborn child (1872)-
https://online.belfastcity.gov.uk/find-burial-records/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=4434.3276

There's a possibility, only a possibility at this point, that Charles William Sparrow born 1906 was known as William. There's a burial in Dundonald Cemetery for a William Sparrow in 1966 age 60-
https://online.belfastcity.gov.uk/find-burial-records/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8705.3772
Residence given as Bangor and other person in plot is a four year old boy with same surname.
The reason I say it's possibly Charles William is that there doesn't seem to be a matching birth in Ireland for a William Sparrow around 1906.
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 21 March 24 08:38 GMT (UK)
Children of Charles William Sparrow & Mary Jane Campbell-
- Robert Ritchie Sparrow (25 Dec.1900 at 51 Battenburg St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01977/1762022.pdf (middle name Ritchie added 12 Jan.1901)
Died 1980 Western Australia- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVN3-KT76
- Emma Sparrow (26 Dec.1902 at 51 Battenburg St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01882/1732175.pdf (originally registered as Ethel, name changed to Emma 31 Jan.1903)
- Charles William Sparrow (9 Aug.1906 at 17 Glencairn St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01732/1684768.pdf
- Margaret Sparrow (1912)- birth & marriage already posted.
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 21 March 24 08:47 GMT (UK)
Marriage for daughter of Robert Ritchie Sparrow in Australia-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HJS7-FKMM

Marriage of Robert Ritchie Sparrow-
Sparrow   Robert Ritchie   Male   Richards   Evelyn May   Female   Kukerin   1928   Katanning   3500042   1928
Stillborn son-
Sparrow   Unnamed   M   Not born alive   Robert Richard SPARROW   Evelyn RICHARDS   Subiaco   1929   Perth   101742   1929
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-justice/online-index-search-tool
Title: Re: Charles & Eliza SPARROW
Post by: Cienna on Thursday 21 March 24 23:31 GMT (UK)

Thank you so much aghadowey, your help is greatly appreciated, this helps me immensely.

Kind Regards

Cienna.