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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Valerie 231059 on Monday 04 March 24 21:07 GMT (UK)
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Looking for Hannah in the 1841, 1851 & 1871 census. Trying to find a birth record. In the 1861,91 & 1911 Census She claims to have been born in Herne, Kent but I can find no record. I thought the 1841 or 1851 census might give a clue to birth and parents. Can anyone help?
Secondly, if I do find the record of birth would the birth certificate have mothers name? The birth register I have found for these dates were old handwritten indexes.
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If she was born 1843-1845 in England, her birth certificate would have her mother's name on.
The GRO version of the index (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp ) would have her mother's maiden name on.
You have her on some records, so you have a little more info than you've given already.
Did she marry? Do you have her marriage certificate?
Who is she living with in 1861, 1891, and 1911?
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1851
HO107/1625/F294/p42
Blean Union Workhouse, Blean, Herne, Kent
James Cullen 36
Elizabeth Cullen wife 32 32
Harriet Cullen dau 12
Hannah Cullen dau 8
Elizabeth Cullen dau 4
William Cullen son 2
Henry Cullen son 3 mths
Mary Cullen dau 3 mths
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Some of the younger children are on the GRO index with mmn Mumford.
I cannot see the marriage but the Banns were read between 19 November and 3 December 1837 in Boughton under Blean for a marriage between James Cullen of that parish and Elizabeth Mumford of the parish of Dunkirk
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If she was born 1843-1845 in England, her birth certificate would have her mother's name on.
The GRO version of the index (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp ) would have her mother's maiden name on.
You have her on some records, so you have a little more info than you've given already.
Did she marry? Do you have her marriage certificate?
Who is she living with in 1861, 1891, and 1911?
Yes married I think in 1866 to Edward Barrett Killick at Clerkenwell.
1861, servant age 16. 1881 wife 37 private house. 1891 Head, age 47
1911 wife age 68
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1851
HO107/1625/F294/p42
Blean Union Workhouse, Blean, Herne, Kent
James Cullen 36
Elizabeth Cullen wife 32 32
Harriet Cullen dau 12
Hannah Cullen dau 8
Elizabeth Cullen dau 4
William Cullen son 2
Henry Cullen son 3 mths
Mary Cullen dau 3 mths
I'll check this but the mother's name I have is Sophia. The other children don't match.
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1851 census Blean Union House - next page from James and Elizabeth/children
Sophia Cullen 30 Widowed - servant born Chislett Kent - corrected status
Hannah 4 born Herne
Emmely (sp) 1 born Herne
There is an Emily Cullin reg. Blean 1849 with mother's maiden name Seath - possible?
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FreeBMD
James Cullen married Sophia Seath 1843 registered Blean
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Hannah Cullen bap. 2 November 1845 parents James and Sophia - Herne Kent
Emily Cullen bap. 1 July 1849 same.
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They married 29 June 1843 at St Mary the Virgin, Chislett. Image on FindMyPast.
His father was James Cullen, Victaller and hers Edward Seath, Labourer
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Thank I think I'll need to get the Cullen Seath marriage certificate. But the date of the marriage & the birth date for Hannah are a coincidence.?
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Do you have the certificate for Hannah Cullen to Edward Killick.
Does it say her father is James?
Who were the witnesses?
I don't see that her birth was registered.
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Sophia in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PR-HNV
marriage 28 March parish church of Herne
Thomas Browning 53 widower labourer Herne father James Browning labourer
Sophia Cullen 45 widow Herne father Edward Seath labourer
witnesses John Young & Eliza Young