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WHB father and WHB son were born in 1879 and 1900 in Wolverhampton.
I have found the father in 1881, 1891, and 1901 but cannot locate him in 1911, although I have found his wife, Mary Ann and 3 of their children living at 4 Court, Stafford Road, Wolverhampton. She is recorded as a housekeeper. WHB Snr died in 1920.
I can find WHB jnr in 1901 but not in 1911 or 1921 although he surfaces again in the 1939 Register in Wolverhampton.
Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Did William jnr marry Jane Harpin in 1921 :-\
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Yes, he did. :)
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Possible sighting of WHB Jnr in 1949?
21 May 1949: Evening Despatch
GAOLED FOR HITTING HIS LANDLADY
William Henry Brittain, aged 49, lodging at 27, Dryden-road, Wolverhampton, was sentenced to two months' imprisonment at Wolverhampton today for assaulting his landlady Mrs. Agnes May Semper.
Mrs. Semper, whose left eye was discoloured, said that for no apparent reason Brittain attacked her, striking her on the forehead and causing a wound in which stitches had to be inserted. He also struck her in the body.
Denying the charge Brittain said the woman. who attacked him with a stout bottle, received her injuries when she fell down.
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22 April 1952: Evening Despatch
STOLE HANDBAG, SENT TO GAOL
A 51-year-old labourer who admitted stealing a woman's handbag containing £8 14s. during an auction sale was sent to prison for nine months at Wolverhampton Quarter Sessions today.
He was William Henry Brittain, of no fixed address, father of eight children. In a statement he said he stole the bag because he was "down and out."
Added: In 1939 there are eight children listed, so this must be him.
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Hello Alan,
Thank you for the two newspaper articles, I have seen the first one but not the second. Seems jnr was somewhat of a rogue.
I'm just at a loss as to where both WHB's were in 1911 and junior in 1921.
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There is a newspaper mention of WHB Jnr’s son WHB too.
Jane Harpin seems to be with her family and single in the 1921 census.
I only see 7 births registered with name Brittain mmn Harpin.
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Is this WHB jnr in 1910? Probably not.
National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
1910
Name - William Brittain
Birth - 23 Sept 1900
Address - 1 Stafford Street
Father - William Brittain
School - Graiseley Secondary School (Senior Boys), Wolverhampton
Note - "Left the district 26 Aug 1913"
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There is a 1911 Electoral Register entry for William Henry Brittain at 21 Ruiton Street, Wolverhampton.
In the 1911 census at 21 Ruiton Street is a William Britton, 43, bricklayer labourer, born Stafford, Segley. His wife is Sophia.
Is this him?
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There is a 1911 Electoral Register entry for William Henry Brittain at 21 Ruiton Street, Wolverhampton.
In the 1911 census at 21 Ruiton Street is a William Britton, 43, bricklayer labourer, born Stafford, Segley. His wife is Sophia.
Is this him?
Do not think it is Alan, I went down that route.
Marriages Mar 1897
BRITTON William Henry Dudley 6c 103
Tomlinson Sophia Dudley 6c 103
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I believe that the school entry is for junior but I missed the 'left the district' note. But even having left the district he should show up somewhere.
The Ruiton Street entry is not my WHB, wrong wife, although I did check that one initially.
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Thank you for your contributions to this query, it's the first one that I've made on Rootschat in 18 years that has been unsuccessful. Still a very good success rate though.
I'll just have to carry on looking and hoping.
George
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Thank you for your contributions to this query, it's the first one that I've made on Rootschat in 18 years that has been unsuccessful.
You started this thread on Monday and have given up in two days :)
WHB father and WHB son were born in 1879 and 1900 in Wolverhampton.
I have found the father in 1881, 1891, and 1901 but cannot locate him in 1911,
I can find WHB jnr in 1901
Is this the 1901 entry that has
William Brittain 22
Mary Ann 22
Alice 2 and William 6 months
also William snrs brother Ben.
In 1911 there is a census entry for an Alice Britt 13 and a William Britt 10 born Wolverhampton who were boarders at an address in Wolverhampton, could this be them with their father
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW7T-VFH
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What information does that 1920 death certificate for William Snr give
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Hello Rosie,
No, I'm certainly not giving up, hence my comment I'll just have to carry on looking and hoping.
Since making my original post I have noticed the Rootschat policy regarding the 1911 Census:
RootsChat's position - under guidance from the management - is that we cannot allow look-ups for the 1911 census either to be requested or offered.
This census is exclusively available online and anyone responding to a request or offering a look-up is technically breaking the terms and conditions of their subscription with whichever provider.
and I have no wish to encourage anyone to go against the policy.
But back to what can be discussed. The details that you show for 1901 are for the family that interest me but those from Familysearch must, I think, refer to a different family as William Snr would be 32 in 1911, was not a widower, and, as far as I've been able to trace, did not have a daughter named Alice, although it's interesting that his occupation is cited as cycle polisher (see below).
Your suggestion has opened up a line of investigation that I had not considered, that of a truncated surname, although I have looked at alternate spellings, and I thank you for that.
William's 1920 death certificate gives the following information:
Age 42 of 7 House, 2 Court, Stafford Street, Wolverhampton. Ex Private South Staffordshire Regt - 241258 formerly a cycle fiter[sic]. Died of (1) Shrapnel wound shoulder left Bronchiatosis (2) Cardiac Failure. No P.M. Informant was Mary Ann Brittain, widow of deceased in attendance, same address.
I am still keen to receive any suggestions/help that may be offered and did not intend to close my query.
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The rootschat rules apply to both the 1911 and 1921 census but we are allowed to give information from free sites such as the link I gave from familysearch.
The death certificate at least tells us that William and Mary Ann were presumably still together when he died.
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Perhaps you need to give us some more information on the family.
When did William H marry Mary Ann, what was her maiden name.
Could you please post all of the details from the 1901 census that you believe to be your family
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William Henry Brittain married a Mary Ann Crockett 1900 reg. Wolverhampton
GRO Index reg. Wolverhampton mother's maiden name Crockett
William Henry 1900
Jane 1902 died 1902 transcribed as Jane Brittam
Mary Ann 1904
James Samuel 1906
Doris 1908
Elsie May 1910
Jack 1912
Annie 1918 * added
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Alice born 1898/1899 I haven't found yet.
1911 Mary Ann says she had 7 children, 5 Living 2 deceased.
So there is one missing child.
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Alice is possibly Edith Alice Crockett reg 1898 Wolverhampton
Either June Quarter or September quarter both are illegitimate
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After saying that Wm snr didn't have a daughter named Alice, I have looked again at the 1901 census and she is listed there. I don't know how I missed her, but I did. I think that I must agree with amondg that Alice was illegitimate and is one of the two 2 born in 1898. That all makes the Wm Britt family suggested by Rosie to be more likely, but for Wm's age being different. I need to do some research on the address given to see if that can provide any clues.
Info from the 1901 Census:
Wm Hy Brittain Head Mar 22 Gen Labourer Wolverhampton
Mary Ann Brittain Wife Mar 22 do
Alice Brittain Dau 2 do
Wm Brittain Son 6mths do
Ben Brittain Bro 38 Gen Lab do
Mary Ann (Crockett) born 1879 Wolverhampton married Wm Hy Brittain 04/1900
Thanks for the continuing interest.