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Title: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: PabloC on Tuesday 20 February 24 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I've been trying to locate the burial record of my x3 Great Grandfather for years now without success.

He (Lawrence Cuddy) died on the 25th March 1848, according to his death certificate.

Having married as RC and subsequently baptised his children as RC throughout the 1830's, I have literally searched all available church burial records for RC churches that had graveyards that were performing internments at the time of his death (1848), starting with St. Anthony's (where his children were both baptised and buried (as in those who died in infancy) and working through the rest.

I've also searched the larger cemeteries that were open at this time i.e. Necropolis, St. James, and St. Mary's to no avail..

His wife Elizabeth died in 1873 and is buried in Anfield Cemetery, which opened after Lawrence's death.

Is it likely that someone who was evidently a practicing Roman Catholic may have simply been buried in a Church of England graveyard, as I'll search through those which are available too if it's a possibility?

Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks!

Pablo

Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 20 February 24 17:43 GMT (UK)
Have you tried Ford Cemetary.  It is the largest Catholic cemetary & although not in the centre of Liverpool - many RC's were buried there

There is a look up offer post by Ozranga - give me a few minutes to find the link

Death reg is Laurence - not Lawrence.  He was 36
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence (Laurence) Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 20 February 24 17:45 GMT (UK)
Here it is

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651292.0
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: PabloC on Tuesday 20 February 24 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,

Thanks for your reply. I'd discounted Ford from the start as it didn't open until 1855 - seven years after Lawrence's death.

In searching all the others, I'd searched up to a few days after the date of death on the presumption that he'd have been buried promptly within a couple of days, as was the way back then.

Plus, he died at home, so I had presumed it would all have been straight forward.

Perhaps I'll start again and extend the search period.
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 20 February 24 17:54 GMT (UK)
 Didn't realise Ford only opened in 1855 - sorry!!
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: lancsann on Tuesday 20 February 24 21:34 GMT (UK)
is it possible he was buried in Ireland. If I have the right one he was born in Ireland according to the 1841 census
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: PabloC on Wednesday 21 February 24 12:02 GMT (UK)
is it possible he was buried in Ireland. If I have the right one he was born in Ireland according to the 1841 census

Hi Lancsann,

I can't say it's not possible, however, from the information I have discovered, he seemed to have lived a settled life here in Liverpool, so it seems unlikely to me.

He married my x3 Great grandmother in Liverpool in 1833. Their firstborn is stated as being born in Manchester (inferred as the same year - 1833) on the 1841 census, however, I've not been able to verify this. Additionally, his other children were all baptised (and those that died in infancy buried) in Liverpool.

I have also located him at the same Liverpool address on a number of Electoral Roll returns from 1839 through to 1847 - the year before his death.
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Wednesday 21 February 24 12:22 GMT (UK)
Possibly  Walton Park Cemetery Rice Lane
Or St James's but 1848  Burials Missing

St Nicholas Churchyard possible closed 1849

Or St Anthony's Scotland Rd
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: PabloC on Wednesday 21 February 24 12:47 GMT (UK)
Possibly  Walton Park Cemetery Rice Lane
Or St James's but 1848  Burials Missing

St Nicholas Churchyard possible closed 1849

Or St Anthony's Scotland Rd

Cheers.

Walton Park Cemetery is a good shout - I'd forgotten about that. I've searched all of the others though and come up blank.

The 1848 burials for St. James are actually there. It's mis-labelled. I'll check and locate them again just to be sure where they're located, but I did search them the other day.
Title: Re: Elusive burial of Lawrence Cuddy (Liverpool)
Post by: garstonite on Friday 23 February 24 12:55 GMT (UK)
shot in the dark - could this be a child of his ?? ...if so - have you considered St Patricks Churchyard in Toxteth ??

Burial: 7 Jan 1841 St Patrick, Toxteth, Lancashire
Christopher Cuddy -
    Age: 8 Months
    Grave: Number XX
 ???