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Title: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Friday 16 February 24 20:01 GMT (UK)
Joseph McDevitt born approx 1891  , arrived usa - most probably New York 1910 approx , according to census.
Any help with passenger record please.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 16 February 24 20:20 GMT (UK)
Have you checked

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1999177

And

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1368704
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Friday 16 February 24 21:04 GMT (UK)
thank you i will check now
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Friday 16 February 24 21:11 GMT (UK)
found him on first link - 1913 derry to boston on ship hummidian. just need to find passenger record
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Friday 16 February 24 21:23 GMT (UK)
Struggling finding the passenger record for the above if anyone can help please .
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 16 February 24 21:40 GMT (UK)
anything here?

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Massachusetts,_Boston_Passenger_Lists,_1891-1943_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Friday 16 February 24 22:16 GMT (UK)
thank you . looked but struggling to find him .
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 16 February 24 22:30 GMT (UK)
Do you have the ship's name correct?
Numidiam?

found him on first link - 1913 derry to boston on ship hummidian. just need to find passenger record
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 16 February 24 23:35 GMT (UK)
found him on first link - 1913 derry to boston on ship hummidian. just need to find passenger record

Can you please link to that record,
And also to a US census you have him on.

Do you have Ancestry?
There is All Boston, Massachusetts, U.S., Book Indexes to Passenger Lists, 1899-1940 results
This can be searched by name, year & name of ship.

He isn’t jumping off the page!
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 16 February 24 23:52 GMT (UK)
HI mckha489   I think it is this one.        DOB matches military draft cards. So not 1891.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP8J-21SL
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 16 February 24 23:58 GMT (UK)
HI mckha489   I think it is this one.        DOB matches military draft cards. So not 1891.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP8J-21SL

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 17 February 24 00:07 GMT (UK)
On the Numidian that arrived Boston 22 Feb 1913 there is a 24 year old Joseph McDAID. …and its quite clearly that  on the image.

No other info.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 00:37 GMT (UK)
More information on this passenger list here (see top line)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YW9-65?view=index&action=view
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 00:44 GMT (UK)
Joseph's nearest friend or relative is recorded as Neil McDaid of Urrismenagh. On his marriage in 1920 that is also the name of his father.

1911 census Neil McDaid of Urrismenagh
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Dunaff/Urrismenagh/494019/


Same family in 1901 census (includes Joseph)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Dunaff/Urrismenagh/1183778/


New York marriage for Joseph McDevitt 1920
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/9047934
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 01:06 GMT (UK)
Well that has taken me a huge amount of time, but I think this may be your man …..

Joseph   born 18 Oct 1885 – Son of Neil McDAID/ McDADE and Betty DOHERTY ( this agrees with names on his New York marriage record and his shipping record)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02625/1968584.pdf
It is not the same date of birth as on Naturalization or USA military draft documents.


Note: the name McDEVITT / McDAVITT is the anglicised version of McDAID / McDADE.
When searching Irish records it is best to use wildcards to pick up all the different spellings.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 01:22 GMT (UK)
1872 Marriage of Neal McDaid to Betty Doherty

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11296/8143892.pdf


It looks as if their first child was John mcDAID born in 1874.
It appears he was also in the USA (Tennessee) from about 1903.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 01:45 GMT (UK)
Neil McDAID death 3rd Sept 1920 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05117/4407460.pdf

Betty McDAID death 11 May 1933
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1933/04862/4313111.pdf
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 17 February 24 02:09 GMT (UK)
Well done Neale1961 (as always).
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 17 February 24 03:02 GMT (UK)
This is Joseph and wife and son in Queens New York in 1940 census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7MY-J3S

Ignore the transcription which is partly incorrect and just look at original document.



There is a possible death for Joseph McDevitt  - age 68
14 May 1957 Manhattan
You would need to look at the original certificate to check, because his year of birth has varied so widely across so many documents.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Saturday 17 February 24 08:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone for help
The ship name may be incorrect but the info is taken from his 1914 New York registration certificate . Just can’t find him on a passenger record
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 17 February 24 08:57 GMT (UK)
Are you not happy with Neale1961’s work?
I think he has been found,

(The N of Numibian on that 1914 doc has an exaggerated starting stroke making it look a little like an H, but it is an N),
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: triathlon on Saturday 17 February 24 19:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you so so much everyone.  I have just picked up my family tree again after many years away from it. Joseph McDaid ( McDevitt) is my great great uncle- all now sorted thanks to you all.
Title: Re: Passenger record help please.
Post by: shanreagh on Wednesday 28 February 24 08:21 GMT (UK)
1872 Marriage of Neal McDaid to Betty Doherty

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11296/8143892.pdf


It looks as if their first child was John mcDAID born in 1874.
It appears he was also in the USA (Tennessee) from about 1903.

From that marriage record it looks as though Neal's father was John McDaid. Naming the first son John, born 1874, follows the Irish naming pattern when the first son is named for the father's father.  When John in Tennessee has his first child this boy is named Neil. 

Anyway I am wondering if this record is the death of John McDaid father of Neal McDaid. Grandfather of Joseph and John from Tennessee.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020718/7269063.pdf
He died the same year that Neal and Betty Doherty McDaid were married.  His death was reported by a(nother)  John McDaid.

Might be possible? to go another generation back.