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My Gt Grandfather John McHugh born Co Mayo 1854/5 wed Jane Brannen (late Scott) 1895 in Wigan and they are both widowed . Now for ages I have looked for marriage info on John and found a maybe . I am using Lancashire B.M.D. , she is Mary Sweeney from Leigh , the marriage is in 1874 Leigh and a death in 1895 when she was 38 . I have also found a birth in Leigh in 1858 with mother`s maiden name of Conlon but not anywhere else to confirm . Any ideas welcome
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Have you found John in 1881 & 1891 census to see if he is married and who his wife is?
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Could this be John noted as Wid'r occ chemical labourer
John McHugh Age 38 born Ireland
Relationship Pauper
Residence Place Whiston, Lancashire
Registration district Prescot
Sub registration district Prescot
ED, Institution or Vessel Union Workhouse
1891c
Piece 3017
Folio 116
What was John's father's name and occupation on 1895 m/c to Jane Brannen?
Do you know both his parents names?
He could have married in Ireland have you tried searching https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
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My Gt Grandfather John McHugh born Co Mayo 1854/5 wed Jane Brannen (late Scott) 1895 in Wigan and they are both widowed .
Now for ages I have looked for marriage info on John and found a maybe . I am using Lancashire B.M.D. , she is Mary Sweeney from Leigh , the marriage is in 1874 Leigh and a death in 1895 when she was 38 .
I have also found a birth in Leigh in 1858 with mother`s maiden name of Conlon but not anywhere else to confirm .
This could well be John on 1901 & 1891 census with mother in law Bridget SWEENEY and married to Mary
Piece 3589
Folio 32
Page number 1
John Mc Hugh 46 Head Wid'r born Leigh Lancashire
William Mc Hugh 25 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 15 Daughter
Annie Mc Hugh 12 Daughter
Thomas Mc Hugh 5 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 51 Sister
Piece 3084
Folio 91
John Mc Hugh 37 Head Born Leigh Lancashire occ general Labourer
Mary Mc Hugh 35 Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 15 Son born Leigh
Bridget Mc Hugh 13 Daughter. ditto
Patrick Mc Hugh 11 Son ditto
Maggie Mc Hugh 9 Daughter ditto
Mary Mc Hugh 5 Daughter ditto
Annie Mc Hugh 2 Daughter ditto
Bridget Sweeney 65 Mother-in-law Ireland
Mary ditto. 5 Visitor
MCHUGH, MARGARET mmn SWEENAY
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 219
and 1881
Piece 3802
Folio 112
Page number 52
John Mc Hugh 26 Head born Leigh Lancashire
Mary Mc Hugh 25 Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 5 Son
Bridget Mc Hugh 3 Daughter
Patrick Mc Hugh 1 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 30 Sister b Ireland
James Colonough 24 Lodger bIreland
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Isn’t he with Jane though in 1901?
Or should that be - is he with Jane in 1901?
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My Gt Grandfather John McHugh born Co Mayo 1854/5 wed Jane Brannen (late Scott) 1895 in Wigan and they are both widowed .
Isn’t he with Jane though in 1901?
Or should that be - is he with Jane in 1901?
Yes he is on 1901 census with wife Jane
Piece 3915
Folio 29
Page number 10
John Mc Hugh 48 Head born Ireland
Jane Mc Hugh 42 Wife
Walter Scott 16 Stepson
John Scott 13 Stepson
Mary Scott 11 Stepdaughter
Cath Mc Hugh 5 Daughter
Ann Gorton 58 Sister-in-law
So doubtful that John’s first wife is Mary Sweeney as they are together on 1891 census and mother in law Bridget Sweeney is with them and then widowed John appears on 1901 c with his 4 children and sister Mary - edit to add and this John McHugh was born in Leigh Lancashire not Ireland
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Stuck for a birth - whose birth are we supposed to be looking for?
The 1895 marriage cert is on a family tree, John is aged 40, a coal miner, father Patrick is deceased and a general labourer. His address was 21 Letterewe Street, Wigan.
Debra :)
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In error!
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A lovely photo of Letterewe Street
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t06/
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Wow! .Thank you all for such quick reply`s , really appreciate it. The birth I am looking for is Mary Sweeney around 1857 . I suppose Leigh as that is where she married 1874 and died 1895 (Lancashire BMD}. John McHugh wed Jane Brannen 1895 in Wigan and Walter , John and Mary are from her previous marriage to Malcolm Scott
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A lovely photo of Letterewe Street
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t06/
Nice one it is a good photo , I saw this one last November (last comment) . When researching I tend to look for pictures of where they lived
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My Gt Grandfather John McHugh born Co Mayo 1854/5 wed Jane Brannen (late Scott) 1895 in Wigan and they are both widowed .
Now for ages I have looked for marriage info on John and found a maybe . I am using Lancashire B.M.D. , she is Mary Sweeney from Leigh , the marriage is in 1874 Leigh and a death in 1895 when she was 38 .
I have also found a birth in Leigh in 1858 with mother`s maiden name of Conlon but not anywhere else to confirm .
This could well be John on 1901 & 1891 census with mother in law Bridget SWEENEY and married to Mary
Piece 3589
Folio 32
Page number 1
John Mc Hugh 46 Head Wid'r born Leigh Lancashire
William Mc Hugh 25 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 15 Daughter
Annie Mc Hugh 12 Daughter
Thomas Mc Hugh 5 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 51 Sister
Piece 3084
Folio 91
John Mc Hugh 37 Head Born Leigh Lancashire occ general Labourer
Mary Mc Hugh 35 Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 15 Son born Leigh
Bridget Mc Hugh 13 Daughter. ditto
Patrick Mc Hugh 11 Son ditto
Maggie Mc Hugh 9 Daughter ditto
Mary Mc Hugh 5 Daughter ditto
Annie Mc Hugh 2 Daughter ditto
Bridget Sweeney 65 Mother-in-law Ireland
Mary ditto. 5 Visitor
MCHUGH, MARGARET mmn SWEENAY
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 219
and 1881
Piece 3802
Folio 112
Page number 52
John Mc Hugh 26 Head born Leigh Lancashire
Mary Mc Hugh 25 Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 5 Son
Bridget Mc Hugh 3 Daughter
Patrick Mc Hugh 1 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 30 Sister b Ireland
James Colonough 24 Lodger bIreland
Thanks for this but John was born in Ireland . He was known in the family as being very strict and accent , I did see a birth in Ireland of a Mary Sweeney (Maria , it`s in Latin )
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As it has been established that your John was not married to Mary SWEENEY, there is another marriage in 1882 to a Mary DONNELLY at Salford, with the father named as Patrick.
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
There are around 40 marriages in Lancashire for men of the same name in the expected timeframe. He may have married in Ireland.
Debra :)
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Stuck for a birth - whose birth are we supposed to be looking for?
The 1895 marriage cert is on a family tree, John is aged 40, a coal miner, father Patrick is deceased and a general labourer. His address was 21 Letterewe Street, Wigan.
Thanks for posting those details - on one of the public trees it says father Patrick McHugh born c1813 died 1888 Wigan - no further details
Have you found John in 1881 & 1891 census to see if he is married and who his wife is?
suzi600 - As asked do you have John on either of these census years?
Have brought forward the 1901 census they are living at 31, Kay Street, Blackburn, Lancashire
John's occupation Sanitary pipe maker.
Who is sister in law Ann Gorton born Liverpool ?
Edited to add I think Ann is Jane’s older sister
1901 census with wife Jane
Piece 3915
Folio 29
Page number 10
John Mc Hugh 48 Head born Ireland
Jane Mc Hugh 42 Wife
Walter Scott 16 Stepson
John Scott 13 Stepson
Mary Scott 11 Stepdaughter
Cath Mc Hugh 5 Daughter
Ann Gorton 58 Sister-in-law
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I see you have edited your post now. :)
Ann Gorton may well be Ann Brennan.
Lancashire BMD
Marriage 1876
Thurston Gorton and Ann Luttrel
They are at 1881 4183 /92/15
Thurston and Annie Gorton
Birth 1868
Mary Jane Luttrel mmn Brinnan b Wigan
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Just to round the previous post
Mary Jane Brenan, 13 yrs b Wigan is with grandparents, Moses and Mary in Blackburn in 1881 4187 /84/31
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I see you have edited your post now. :)
Ann Gorton may well be Ann Brennan.
Lancashire BMD
Marriage 1876
Thurston Gorton and Ann Luttrel
They are at 1881 4183 /92/15
Thurston and Annie Gorton
Birth 1868
Mary Jane Luttrel mmn Brinnan b Wigan
I did Heywood - I was wondering if there might have been a link to John McHugh and they were together on 1891 census - then realised she was born Lancashire ::)
1901c John born Ireland 31 Kay Street Blackburn
1911c John born Mayo Ireland 67 Carlisle Street Blackburn
1921c John born Mayo Ireland
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Thanks again for your replies so , Ann Gorton was Janes sister and their Father was Moses Brannen but Mary Jane was the Grand daughter of Moses . I have her as May jane Hietold in an earlier census