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Hi
I’m trying to find the parents of David Hellewell born 1786 Sowerby Bridge, Halifax, West Yorkshire.
He married Mary Wilkinson in 1815. Their daughter Hannah Hellewell born 1834 is my 3x great grandmother.
I think his father could be David Hellewell born 1765 as there is a baptism for younger David in Sowerby Bridge but I’m really lost and I’m at a dead end :(
Any help would be amazing.
Thank you
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There are 2 possible baptisms at Sowerby on family search
David son of David 13 may 1787
Or David son of Timothy 9 may 1784
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Thank you so much for searching for me.
I’ve not come across a Timothy. In the 1851 census his year of birth is 1785.
I wonder how I could find out which baptism it could be?
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Are there any matches in 1841 or 1851 census?
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In 1841 David is living with his family :
David Hellewell 55
Mary Hellewell 50
Charles Hellewell 25
Aron Hellewell 20
John Hellewell 15
Moses Hellewell 13
Hannah Hellewell 8
In 1851 :
David Hellewell 66
Mary Hellewell 60
James Morton 17
Do you think I should try find a Timothy Hellewell in the census ?
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I would look for age at death to compare the two David's. Not always accurate, but may be of use.
Any instance of Timothy being used in the family as a name.Often Yorkshire folk used a naming pattern, first son named for father etc.
Any earlier Halewell wills ?
Who witnessed the marriage to Mary?
Did occupations run through the 2 families.
That's all I can think of for now, time to turn in!
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Witnesses to the marriage were William Rushworth and Mark Nichol. (ancestry)
They witnessed all the marriages on this page and most other pages, so not related.
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Find a Grave
A tombstone inscription St Peter's Churchyard, Sowerby.
--memory of Susy wife of David Hellowell of Sowerby who died 25 October 1807 aged 24 years.
Also Susey daughter of David and Mary Hellowell who died 10 January 1832 aged 11 months.
Also Stephen their son who died 10 June 1833 aged 11 years.
Also William their son who died 27 November 1839 aged 21 years
Also John their son who died 12 November 1846 aged 21 years.
Baptisms
Charles 28 January 1816
William 1 March 1818 death see above
Aron 1 October 1820
Eli 26 August 1821 (possible death 30 July 1823 age 2 abode Tarvin???)
Stephen 16 march 1823 death see above
John 9 October 1825 death see above
Moses 6 July 1828
Susey 20 March 1831 death see above.
Hannah 30 June 1833
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It looks like David first married Susy ? who died 1807 then married Mary Wilkinson 16 July 1815 at St John the Baptist, Halifax. Both were of Sowerby
There is a David Hellowell who married Susy Mansley 23 June 1805 at St John the Baptist, Halifax
both were of Sowerby. both made their mark.
Witness
Thomas Riley and E? Hellowell (both signed)
Based on the tombstone inscription they are one and the same family.
Note: Eli isn't on there but the only one I can see so far on census is the son of Timothy.
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Usually the first son is named for the paternal grandfather but I don't see Charles Helliwell having a son David.
Charles Helliwel married Phillis Killingbeck 5 April 1779 she died June 1795.
He then remarried Grace Riley 20 December 1795.
Charles was a Mason
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David and Mary didn't name any children David or Mary, then again no Timothy either.
When the children were baptised he was listed as a Weaver.
His son Charles though is a stone mason!!
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Thank you fiddlerslass and amondg for all your help and information.
I’ll read through all this sometime today and try work out where I am with things.
It does sound confusing but I’ll have a look and let you know :)
I’m hoping I find the answers so fingers crossed
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This could be David's Death registration Halifax Dec quarter 1859 As Hellewell . GRO site gives ages as 75. His wife Mary is a widow in 1861 still living in Elland, which is in Halifax registration district.
The other David married to Ann is 63 Born Sowerby in 1851, so around 1788
He is still alive in 1871 age gives dob ABT 1789 Erringden. He is a farmer.
So perhaps your David is more likely to be born 1786 or slightly earlier.
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Hi and thank you again.
I’ve had a look at David (born about 1786) and Mary (Wilkinson) children.
I have Charles, Aaron, John, Moses, Hannah born 1834.
But I’m still a bit confused, does anyone know who David’s parents could be? ???
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Have you looked for wills of any Helliwell/Hellewell family members - not just those named David.
How about the Wilkinson Family did they leave any wills?
They can be very useful with names of children and nephews and nieces.
One thing I did notice Charles Helliwell widower married Grace RILEY 1795 at Elland
When David married Susy Mansley 1805 a witness was Thomas RILEY.
I'm leaning towards Charles being David's father, as his first son is Charles. David himself was a weaver, but his sons Charles and Aaron were masons/ stone masons.
Found so far children of Charles and Phillis Helliwell- St John the Baptist, Halifax
John 1781-1787
James 1783
- gap of 7 years*** when David could have been born-Keep in mind a stone mason might have to travel for work, not every job would be on his door step.
Benjamin died 1790
Betty bap. November 1791 died 1792
Charles died 1794
Charles died 1795
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As far as the children of David goes you are only listing those from the 1841 census.
I gave you the other children
William 1818-1839 ref; Tombstone/Memorial
Susey 1831 1832 same
Stephen 1823 -1833 same
Eli bap 26 August 1821 not mentioned on the memorial/tombstone - need to find out more about him.
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Hi,
I’ve not searched for any wills and unfortunately don’t have any that I could look at. Mary Wilkinson’s father was an Aaron Wilkinson.
Oh yes thank you for those extra child names, I’ll add those 😊. I really appreciate these extra names and all your help.
The Riley connection is good to know.
Do you think Elland would come under the same area as Sowerby Bridge?
Thank you
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According to Genuki, Elland and Sowerby were part of Halifax parish
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Halifax
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Oh yes, thank you :)
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Probate would be under the Prerogative Courts of the Archbishop of York.
Both East and West Yorkshire have Archives for all manner of documents
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That’s great, thank you for your help :)
Hopefully I’m a step closer to parents names 🤞🏼