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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: VICTORIA on Tuesday 10 August 04 23:18 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know anything about a family surname Haw from Middlesbrough.
Dennis Haw married Doreen nee Bateman 5/1/1950.
Middlesbrough.The Parish Church.North Ormesby.
Dennis was aged 20 years His Father was William Haw.
Living at 59 Westbourne Grove North Ormesby.
Dennis was at one time in the Army /worked as a window cleaner.
His father was William Haw Steelworker.
Doreen was 19 years old at time of marriage.
She was born in Liverpool 19/3/1930.
Her father was Thomas George Bateman.Cinema operator.
Her mother was Ada Elizabeth Bateman nee Bond.
Doreen died 14/7/1967 from multiple sclerosis.At time of death lived at 53 Woodlands Road Middlesbrough.
She had 5 children. She had one brother Thomas George Bond ( born out of wedlock)He was born 1928
He died aboard ship 1978 age 50 years ( Heart Attack)
I have tried to trace birth of Doreen in Liverpool but there is no record ?? Cant understand why. Surely she would have had to produce birth details at marriage. At one time family lived at ? Mill Street Middlesbrough House now demolished. Can anyone Help ?? ???
Victoria
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Hi Victoria,
From the age you gave, I may have found Denis on the Tees Valley Registry website.
It is spelt with one N however, and the date of the birth is 1929. The entry is as follows:
Search births - results for HAW 1928 to 1932
1929 DENIS M-M-084-0-0306 Middlesbrough
The M-M-084-0-0306 number is the number to quote to M'bro registry office if you wish to purchase his birth certificate.
I cannot be sure this is your man, but it kinda looks like it.
The website address if you would like to look for yourself is :
http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk
Regards,
Gordon
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HELLO GORDON THANKS FOR INFORMATION WILL LOOK IT UP.
: :)VICTORIA
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Hi Victoria, my family surname is Haw, originally from Middlesbrough, my grandad was also called William though not the same one you are looking into, I will speak to my dad re the name Denis/Dennis as I am not sure of my grandads siblings etc I know he had a sister but not sure of any others!
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Thank you. Look forward to your reply.
Victoria
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hi dennis haw is my grandad so i can help :)
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Hi, thank you for your reply. I am interested in your grandmothers ( Doreen ) brother George Thomas Bond. I will send you a pm ( private message )
Victoria
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Hi
I recieved your message and I can definatly help :) but for some reason it wont let me reply to your private message. Could you send me an emaila ddress privatly i could get in touchw ith. I just spoke to my mum and your her aunty :) so I think we could probably help each other piece that aprt of our family tree together :) x
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Hi
The personal message system does not work until you have at least two posts. You will probably be able to use it now.
Oddly enough I had an aunt by marriage whose surname was Haw. They married in Middlesbrough in 1928 and lived there all their lives. She was a daughter of Arthur Haw and Rosa Ward if you come across them in your travels.
Andrea
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I have a few references to the Haws on Teesside. They had both family and business connections with my Mellanbys. The dates range between the mid-18th to mid-19th centuries. This might be a bit early for your present research but if you let me know I will pass on what I have.
John Mellanby
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Thank you will send you pm.
Victoria
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hi John
Id be interested in any info you have as im not getting very far with my famiyl tree on this side at the moment :)
thanks
x
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Thank you will send you pm.
Victoria
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regards
Andrea
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Sorry I thought information may have been about living people.
Victoria
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hi John
Id be interested in any info you have as im not getting very far with my famiyl tree on this side at the moment :)
thanks
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Hi we have been in touch. I have researched Bond family in detail going back some time. Let me know what you need.
Victoria
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Hi Victoria,
Here are the Haw references:
The first is the record of a property transaction which reads:
"28 May 1771 Robert Smith of Hartburn yeoman took of the Lord one fourth part of a messuage situated in Hartburn - 20 April 1761 from Robert Thompson and Augustin Parkin to John Harrow of Hourston (Hartburn?) in the parish of Stockton yeoman
- and the other surrender bearing date 19 April 1763 from the said Robert Thompson to Robert Oakes and Thomas Haw In which Henry Mellanby of Stockton and his wife Mary - one of the four daughters of Robert Thompson late of Hartburn aforesaid deceased therein having right ( she the said Mary being examined alone and not compelled by force or through fear of her said husband but of her own voluntary free will)"
This quotation is from the Natioanl Archives but the original is in Teesside Archives in Middlesbrough.
Next is a reference to shipbuilding in Stockton referring to the owner-operators of the shipyards:
"Mr. Humphrey was succeeded by one Stephenson, who continued the business till 1782, when it fell into the hands of Mr. Thomas Haw, Sen., who, from that time to 1800, built sixty-one vessels; the largest, the " Experiment," being 750 register tons.
Mr. Mellanby, Sen., next occupied the yard, and Mr.Thomas Haw, Jun., for some time carried on the ship-building"
I haven't looked into Haw genealogy but it is a fair guess that Thomas Haw Senior is the one involved in the property deal.
The Mellanby quoted above is William Mellanby. HIs son William Iley Mellanby also managed the yard at some stage.
I can't recall where I got this shipbuilding item from but there are some online historys of shipbuilding on the Tees if you wanted to pursue it.
I have a copy of the will of William Iley Mellanby, described as shipbuilder, who died in 1841. He quotes his daughter Mary Haw as one of the beneficiaries.
Mary Mellanby married Thomas Haw in 1808. Another assumption: this must be Thomas Junior?
By the way I have obtained a number of wills from the University of Durham and I notice that they have one for a Thomas Haw (amongst others) that you may wish to look into. I can give you a some more detail on getting wills if you wish.
Hope this is of interest.
John
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Thank you John I will pass this message on to existing Haw family who I was trying to help with their family history. I am sure they will find this of interest.
Much obliged.
Victoria