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Title: X4 great grandfather
Post by: Chloebolton22 on Monday 12 February 24 23:51 GMT (UK)
I am looking for information about George Ralph

 born 1829 Cornwall England
Death 20th July 1867 Ince Wigan

He had a son Fredrick who was born in 1855. He married Elizabeth dean in 1856 in Redruth Cornwall he died at the age of 38 and only had one child

His parents were Peter Ralph 1798-1829 and Mary moyle 1801-1871

Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 13 February 24 00:22 GMT (UK)
There are  also these RALPH births at Redruth with mother's maiden name DEAN:

1858 Sept qtr  Mary Elizabeth
1862 Sept qtr  Charles

The family are on the 1861 census at Redruth:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7ZY-854
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 13 February 24 00:24 GMT (UK)
I think you need to be more specific about what information you are looking for.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: Chloebolton22 on Tuesday 13 February 24 09:02 GMT (UK)
I’m looking for what George Ralph did for a living, his family, and war records or military history. Or anything else you can possibly find about him
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 13 February 24 09:16 GMT (UK)
As you can see from the 1861 census, George RALPH was  a copper miner.

This looks like it could be family at Buscaverran, Crowan in 1841 (mother Mary - farmer)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYY-5Q1

Possibly the family in 1851 at Crowan, George is a copper miner:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2D-481

There is an item on Ancestry in the "UK, Coal Mining Accidents and Deaths Index, 1878-1935" for George RALPH died 20 July 1867 at Ince, Wigan. He was a labourer for the Ince Hall Coal and Cannel Co. He died from a fall of roof at Arley mine.
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 13 February 24 09:33 GMT (UK)
For interest, Buscaverran on this 1877 map:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.0&lat=50.16172&lon=-5.29379&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld

In 1851, they are at Releath which is just south east of Buscaverran. Looks like "Releath lower" on the census.  :-\

(In 1861 George and Elizabeth and family are at Plain an Gwarry, Redruth.)
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 13 February 24 09:52 GMT (UK)
Newspaper reports of the inquest into his death seem to refer to him as John RALPH. "killed by a fall of roof in a pit belonging to the Ince Hall Coal and Cannel Company".
eg:
Saturday,  July 27, 1867
Publication: Liverpool Daily Post

Sunday,  July 28, 1867
Publication: The Era
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 13 February 24 10:34 GMT (UK)
I can only see a preview, however there seems to be a more detailed report in the Wigan Observer 27 July 1867.

From what I can see:

 ... on the body of John Ralph, oilman in the employ of Ince Hall Coal and Cannel Company, who was injured in the  yard mine on the 6th inst. The deceased was engaged with another man in erecting cabin, when a fill roof took place, and he was caught. His companion escaped. Ralph died on Friday morning the 19th instant. A verdict Accidental Death was returned."
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: Chloebolton22 on Tuesday 13 February 24 10:39 GMT (UK)
Thank u for finding this all out x
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 13 February 24 18:50 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure that Peter Ralph could be the father of George

Burial in Crowan 29 June 1825 Peter Ralph age 26
parish register entry
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01szx/

Possible baptism in Crowan 18 May 1831 George Johns son of Mary Ralph, singlewoman
parish register
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01szy/

 :-\
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 14 February 24 01:17 GMT (UK)
Something a bit strange - Peter RALPH was buried 29 June 1825. However there is  a baptism for a daughter of Peter and Mary RALPH at Crowan on 25 Dec 1825, (doesn't say he is deceased). So is the burial someone else?  :-\

Other children to Peter and Mary RALPH (farmer, Crowan):
22 March 1823  Joseph
22 March 1823  Mary
18 April 1824  Peter
25 Dec 1825  Johanna

Certainly the 1841 census seems to be the family at Buscaverran:
Mary RALPH     40   (farmer)
Margaret            70
Joseph              15  (miner)
Peter                 15  (tailor)
George              12 

Also wondering who is Margaret born c1770.
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: Chloebolton22 on Sunday 07 December 25 14:48 GMT (UK)
Do you have a direct link you can send me to view this
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 December 25 20:57 GMT (UK)
you can search indexed parish registers for Cornwall here

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/person-search/?form=MT00MG
Title: Re: X4 great grandfather
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 08 December 25 00:03 GMT (UK)
And a link to the 1841 census (which was also given in reply#4):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYY-5QR?lang=en