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Title: What happened here?
Post by: probinson on Thursday 08 February 24 13:20 GMT (UK)
Came across these death entries on FreeBMD. Not related to me as far as I know but wondered if anyone knew the story. Maybe quads?

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Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: Brie on Thursday 08 February 24 13:26 GMT (UK)
They certainly look like quads as the mother's mmn is King for all four

Brie
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 08 February 24 13:31 GMT (UK)
There is a newspaper report of the birth of quads to a Mrs Robinson in Gloucester in August 1912.
It says that one was stillborn and the other three died within a week of their birth.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: probinson on Thursday 08 February 24 13:47 GMT (UK)
That's so sad.

Would a death have been recorded for a stillborn? I thought there had to be a live birth before a death was recorded.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 08 February 24 14:13 GMT (UK)
There is a separate Stillbirths Register - NOT available online.
I believe you have to contact GRO at Southport, and prove your link to the stillbirth.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: probinson on Thursday 08 February 24 14:20 GMT (UK)
There is a separate Stillbirths Register - NOT available online.
I believe you have to contact GRO at Southport, and prove your link to the stillbirth.
Yes, I knew that. The question was, would a death have been recorded if the child was stillborn. I thought not. Which would suggest all four were born alive.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: alpinecottage on Thursday 08 February 24 14:38 GMT (UK)
Newspapers could make mistakes in 1912, just as now.
Or perhaps the parents thought "All four of our little girls need to be remembered and recorded" so they just registered them all despite one having been stillborn.
Sad tale though.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 08 February 24 14:43 GMT (UK)
Gosh,how very sad, wonder if they were full term or premature .
Poor parents, mother especially after  carrying them for months then their tiny lives ended.
Hope they had living children after that sadness.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 08 February 24 14:51 GMT (UK)
Western Evening Herald 30th July 1912
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 08 February 24 14:53 GMT (UK)
Gloucester Journal, 17th August 1912
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: Jebber on Thursday 08 February 24 15:23 GMT (UK)
Whoever the informant was, they must not have understood the regulations becaue all four births were registered as well as the deaths.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: tillyc on Tuesday 13 February 24 19:08 GMT (UK)
Robinson Burials:

Cissie lived for 5 minutes, Charity lived 1 day and Hope lived for 4 days and all three were buried on 6th August 1912.  Faith lived for 7 days and was buried on 9th August 1912.
Title: Re: What happened here?
Post by: sylvia (canada) on Wednesday 14 February 24 00:37 GMT (UK)
So Cissie was born alive, and took at least a few breaths after birth. So she could legally be declared live.

My understanding is that many a midwife swore that a baby took 2 breaths after birth, so that the child could be buried inside the church yard with a record of the death, and not just "discarded".