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Good Evening one and all.
This is about Reginald Brown b1898 in West Woodhay Berkshire Uk.
I am told that he married a lady with a surname of Prebble.
I am furthered informed that they had a daughter Frances Helen Brown.
I can find no reference to to the wife or daughter.
I’m wondering if I’ve been given information about another Brown.
There are few around.
Any help would be gratefully received.
Many thanks in anticipation
Chalkeydave
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It looks as if you were given the wrong maiden name for his wife.
A Reginald Brown married Mabel A.F. Lester in Newbury in 1925.
In 1927 Frances Helen Beryl was born Newbury mother’s maiden name Lester.
That all I can find and looks most likely to be the couple you want.
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See www.freebmd.org.uk
No Reginald Brown b 1898 in Berkshire. There is a March 1899 birth which could indicate a birth at the very end of 1898 & only registered 1899 but he was Reginald Arthur
West Woodhay came under Hungerford RD at that time so could he be the 1895 birth on freebmd - mothers maiden White??
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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There was only one PREBBLE BROWN marriage in Berkshire between 1918 and 1960 but that was between a Leonard BROWN and Ellen PREBBLE in 1937.
There were none anywhere else during that period.
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This looks like Mabel A F Lester and her Prebble stepfather
birth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FF2-FKK
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X722-YF9
1921 she is living with another couple under their surname (free search only)
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You need to look at the 1939 register entry for Reginald & Mabel then check freebmd. Publication of 1939 info that can only be obtained via subscription is not allowed on RC.
Reginald was not born 1895 or 1898 nor was he born in Berkshire - see freebmd. You may need to check your info & buy a copy of the marriage cert to get his fathers name
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This looks to be the family in Hampshire, Reginald born in East Woodhay, not West Woodhay, East Woodhay came under Kingsclere in Hampshire, his birth is registered there along with his younger sister Ellen age 7 months in 1901 and older siblings, their mother’s maiden name was RICHARSDON.
That is the only family I can find that fits in both 1901 and 1911.
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This looks like Mabel A F Lester and her Prebble stepfather
birth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FF2-FKK
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X722-YF9
1921 she is living with another couple under their surname (free search only)
Yes, that certainly looks like Mabel in the census, but we are still stuck with the marriage to a Leonard not Reginald.
Hopefully we will get a response from Chalkeydave tomorrow.
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You need to look at the 1939 register entry for Reginald & Mabel then check freebmd. Publication of 1939 info that can only be obtained via subscription is not allowed on RC.
Reginald was not born 1895 or 1898 nor was he born in Berkshire - see freebmd. You may need to check your info & buy a copy of the marriage cert to get his fathers name
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My apologies for incorrect information.
Reginald Brown was born 1898 in Kingsclere which is in Hampshire not Berkshire as I thought.
I have checked 1939 census as suggested and he is living in Newbury with Mabel AF Brown,but listed as inferred spouse and record officially closed.
Can you please explain.
With the information you have given I will continue my search.
My enormous thanks as always to you lovely people 🙂🙂
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The 1939 is a Register not a census.
Where did you see inferred spouse?
The closed record is someone under 100 who’s death has not been recorded.
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In the 1939 Register
Reginald Brown and Mabel AF Brown
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I can see no mention of inferred spouse in the Register and I have looked on two websites.
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I see it now but only when you find the transcript of the record, I don’t know why because there is no mention on the actual image.
There is no mention on the transcript on the other website.
The same is on the transcript of every married man, all the children are the same.
It simply means that the information is presumed to be true.
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This is about Reginald Brown b1898 in West Woodhay Berkshire Uk
Reginald Brown was born 1898 in Kingsclere which is in Hampshire not Berkshire as I thought.
I am told that he married a lady with a surname of Prebble.
I am furthered informed that they had a daughter Frances Helen Brown
I am referring to his birthdate given on the 1939 register - it was not 1898.
Where does he fit into your FH? If you are descended from one of his siblings - what census info do you have showing parents etc?
There are a lot of Reginald Brown's :-\
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Thank you Carole W.
Now I am in a fix.
Do I have the wrong Reginald Brown or the wrong birth date.
Perhaps I should send off for a certificate.
My apologies for my errors.
As you can see I real novice.
Chalkeydave
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It is well known that Birth dates are often a year or two out on the Register, I have several in my tree like that, I know for certain that their dates a wrong because I have the birth certificates for one family who were still living at the 1939 address when I stayed with them years later.
I suggest you order the 1898 birth certificate, a digital copy is only £2-50.
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Thank you Jebber,I will do just that.🙂
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I’m sure it is the right family, Mabel’s mother was Edith Mary BAWLER born in Somerset in 1879. Edith married Francis LESTER in 1906, Then Edith married Frederick William PREBBLE in Box Wiltshire on the 21 July 1909 she said she was a widow. I haven’t found a death for Francis. I looked both for Francis and Frank with no luck.
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Thank you once again Jebber.
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I am sure it's the right Mabel - just not certain it's the right Reginald in view of the birthdate and commonality of the surname. My advice was to buy a copy of their marriage cert to check his fathers name & occupation and it may also show Reginalds age when he married.
Freebmd have 2 births in the June qtr 1900 and one in the Sept qtr - none in Berks. Mabel was b Somerset so who knows ;D
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I am sure it's the right Mabel - just not certain it's the right Reginald in view of the birthdate and commonality of the surname. My advice was to buy a copy of their marriage cert to check his fathers name & occupation and it may also show Reginalds age when he married.
Freebmd have 2 births in the June qtr 1900 and one in the Sept qtr - none in Berks. Mabel was b Somerset so who knows ;D
Reginald’s, birth 1898
BROWN Reginald qtr 3, vol 2c, page 250 mmn RICHARDSON.
Kingsclere is the registration district for East Woodhay where he was living.
Reginald’s parents marriage.
The Parish Church Burghclere 27 Nov, 1890 after Banns.
Tom Lidston BROWN 25 bac, Carpenter father Thomas BROWN labourer.
Louisa RICHARDSON 22 sp, father William RICHARDSON labourer
Witnesses William RICHARDSON & Ellen RICHARDSON.
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I am aware of the 1898 birth reg from earlier replies - but poster has not confirmed where that info has come from or whether it is verified.
From opening post
I’m wondering if I’ve been given information about another Brown.
There is no doubt that a Reginald Brown married Mabel Lester. Mabel's details are clear but there is no info to support that the Reginald Brown she married is the one b Kingsclere 1898 given his birthdate in 1939.
The 1901 census for the Reginald b 1898 shows his father as Thomas Lidstone Brown occ carpenter. Thomas L died aged 42 & was buried 9.3.1907
It is a distinctive name so if the marriage cert for Reginald & Mabel shows it as his father - bingo. If not - then wrong Reginald