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Title: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Thursday 01 February 24 19:01 GMT (UK)
Could someone with an appropriate access kindly look up Fanelly MATTAT in the 1851 census for Somerset? She was born, married and died in France so I'm curious as to why she was in Somerset in 1851.
I have only been able for locate her in the 1851 census index on one genealogy site: the other major sites don't seem to have the record for some reason.
She married a James Evans in Cannes in 1857. With Fanelly's assistance he founded the second English church in Cannes in 1864.
I'd also be grateful for details of any other people living at the same address as Fanelly.
Many thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: AlanBoyd on Thursday 01 February 24 19:59 GMT (UK)
She is at 5 Lansdowne Place, Lansdown, Bath.
Douglas Hunter, widower, 51, proprietor of house property, Scotland, Perth
Douglas E. Hunter, daughter, unmarried, 27, Herts., Walton
Fanelly Mattat, visitor, unmarried, 36, independent (various) fundholder etc, France, Bretagne...[illegible]
+ two servants

Yes, the daughter is clearly recorded as Douglas.

ADDED: as others have hinted at below, the head of the family is actually female, I was a bit sloppy here. So both mother and daughter are Douglas.
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Thursday 01 February 24 20:46 GMT (UK)
Thank  you Alan!
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 01 February 24 20:47 GMT (UK)
Both mother and daughter are called Douglas. The father was John, a clergyman, according to 1841, where the family is at the same address in Bath
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 01 February 24 20:56 GMT (UK)

Reverend John Hunter
Age    47
Burial    26 Apr 1844, Charlcombe, Somerset

Looking around at this family's history to see if any clues to the connection with Fanelly. Will is on Ancestry - no executor named. Douglas the daughter moved to Scotland and died, unmarried, in the 1880s. One executor was a Rev Isaac Gale. JOhn educated Eton and Oxford - son of James of London
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Saturday 03 February 24 09:12 GMT (UK)
Thank you Mabel!
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: AlanBoyd on Saturday 03 February 24 10:21 GMT (UK)
Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette 25th April 1844
Quote
DEATHS
April 19, at his residence, Lansdown-place East the Rev. John Hunter, A.M., in his 48th year, youngest* son of the late James Hunter, Esq., of Upper Holloway*, Middlesex

* denotes uncertainty in my transcription because of severe "spine bending" distortion in the image, although the OCD at BNA agrees with both.
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Saturday 03 February 24 16:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you again.
Regarding the Douglas Hunter daughter, I see that the 1861 census names her as Dorcas, not Douglas. However, her christening document (27 Jan 1824) confirms that her name really was Douglas, as was her mother's too. And the father was John.

An entry in the National Library of Wales catalogue states "The papers comprise a copy probate (June 1844) of the will (April 1840) of Rev. John Hunter of Bath, an abstract of title (1827-1844) to 3 Laura Place, Aberystwyth, 1861, and letters, Aug.-Sept. 1861. Mrs Hunter is presumably Douglas Hunter, widow of Rev. John Hunter."

It doesn't really help my wondering about why Fanelly Mattat should have been in Bath in 1851!
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 February 24 19:31 GMT (UK)
That's why I was looking around the family history to see if there were any French connections.  I can only guess that there's some connection through religious activities, given John Hunter was a vicar, as was Fanelly's husband. That suggests her social circle has church connections

Added: Mrs Douglas Hunter's maiden name was Richardson
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 03 February 24 19:42 GMT (UK)
where does the Aberystwyth connection come into it? I can't see Mrs or Miss Hunter lived there, although interestingly there were some Evanses living there in the 1870s

I forgot to mention that JOhn and Douglas had at least one other child. There's a daughter  Jessie, b Gloucestershire, who in 1841 appears to be working in a school.  There may have been teachers from France at some point?
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Saturday 03 February 24 21:45 GMT (UK)
Yes, I'm only guessing but I suspect there was a church connection, and also that Fanelly was perhaps serving in Bath as a French teacher.
I can't explain the Aberystwyth connection - it just pops up in the National Library of Wales records concerning "the lease of 3 Laura Place, Aberystwyth, by Mrs Hunter to Miss Parry." The note presumes Mrs Hunter to be the widow of the Rev John as the bundle of papers includes his probate.

Fanelly's husband, James Evans, was very active in the evangelical movement of the early 19th century in the UK. His first wife was from the well-connected Scottish Carnegie family. He was a co-founder of a radical newspaper, The Record, which became the Church of England Newspaper in 1949 and still exists today. He later moved to Cannes with his first wife but she died in 1855. He married Fanelly in 1857. In 1864 he established Holy Trinity Church in Cannes, the second English church in the town. That also still exists, though not in the same building and is now the only English church in Cannes (at one time there were four!).
Fanelly was not a local lady - she was born in Nantes, in NE France, so how the couple met is another matter for speculation!
Title: Re: Fanelly MATTAT in Somerset 1851
Post by: pollux83 on Wednesday 07 February 24 09:14 GMT (UK)
Correction - I meant Nantes is in north west France!