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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Wulfsige on Wednesday 31 January 24 14:03 GMT (UK)
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In the years 1795-1802 three men (John, William, and James) were begetting children. They were all brickmakers in South Wales; at least seven of their sons or grandsons became brickmakers in South Wales; all shared the fairly unusual name Gameson (also spelled Gamson); and all were Nonconformists (2 Wesleyan, 1 Congregational). I suspect they were brothers, but I cannot find a birth or christening record for any of them, nor a reference to parents or birthplace in any marriage record. They may have come from anywhere to work in South Wales in the late 1700s. My question is: Is there a means of finding a man in the mid 1700s who had three sons, named John, William, and James?
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Did they all die before the 1851 census
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Have you marriage records for any of the 3 men?
It sounds like the name could have been Jameson at one time.
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Robert and Sarah Gamson had three sons baptised in Whitchurch, Shropshire
John 11 November 1753
William 10 December 1755
James 6 March 1763
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Did they all die before the 1851 census
Yes.
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Robert and Sarah Gamson had three sons baptised in Whitchurch, Shropshire
John 11 November 1753
William 10 December 1755
James 6 March 1763
That's interesting. I should have added that James is the only one we know anything else about at all. He died aged 91 in 1836, thus born ca 1745. We suspect he married in the 1760s, that his wife died, and that he then re-married and continued begetting children. There is no record of a James Gameson or Gamson (the spelling was used interchangeably and apparently the pronunciation used to be [gamson]) being born/christened in 1744-6 anywhere in Britain. None of them survived even into the 1841 census. Their wives may, of course, have been a deal older or younger than them, and if the men came from England, it is possible they married local girls after moving to Wales, giving no idea of where the men were born and grew up.
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There is also this burial which would put birth c1770
1834 May 13, GAMSON John age 64 Burial, of Varteg, Parish of Trevethin at Aberystruth St Peter
Which could tie in with this marriage
1794 Feb 9, JONES Mary - GAMSON John, Marriage Panteg St Mary
Both of parish, both signed X. Witnesses Benjm Ball signed - Eliz. Jones X
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/PanTeague
Check http://www.mongenes.org.uk/Home.html if not already, maybe of help
Cas
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There is also this burial which would put birth c1770
1834 May 13, GAMSON John age 64 Burial, of Varteg, Parish of Trevethin at Aberystruth St Peter
Which could tie in with this marriage
1794 Feb 9, JONES Mary - GAMSON John, Marriage Panteg St Mary
Both of parish, both signed X. Witnesses Benjm Ball signed - Eliz. Jones X
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/PanTeague
Check http://www.mongenes.org.uk/Home.html if not already, maybe of help
Cas
Thank you. Good thinking. I already have this John (maybe 1771-1834) as he is my direct ancestor through my father's mother (Alice Gameson). (The spellings Gamson/Gameson wandered between the same family and even the same person.) He MIGHT be the son of the elusive James, who (likewise from his death record) was born in 1745. I shall explore this line of thought further.
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were they born in Panteg , Wales ?
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https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=gamson&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Wales%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR®ion__0__=WLS&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=®ion__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=®ion__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=®ion__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=®ion__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1795&to=1802&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
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were they born in Panteg , Wales ?
I don't know - but their children were christened 1795-1805 in Merthyr Tydfil, Panteg, and Llangattock; and John was married in Panteg in 1794. Where they all were before that, non one seems to know.