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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: SsGn on Tuesday 30 January 24 17:57 GMT (UK)
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Good Evening everyone,
I wonder if anyone has access to marriage records for a Thomas Lewis and Sarah Ann Dawson in 1868 in Hampshire, possibly Milton. But that area of Hampshire may not be correct.
I am looking for the parents names of Thomas Lewis and the occupation. Also names of any witnesses. TIA
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The 1832 marriage of Thomas LEWIS at Alverstoke was to Mary Anne HORAN
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Thank you,
Any mention of parents names or witnesses?
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The witnesses were Mary Boyd & Joseph Gear.
No space for occupation or father at this time.
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Bach’s and spinster, married by Banns,
Witnesses Mary BOTH and Joseph GEAR. Fathers were not named at that time.
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Thomas Lewis born 16th
November October1836 Landport Hants, parents Thomas & Mary Ann Horan.
Thomas died 1900 Portsmouth
Marriages Sep 1868
DAWSON Sarah Ann Portsea 2b 602
Lewis Thomas Portsea 2b 602
7 Lewis / Dawson children between 1872-94
SS
Post amended
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Sandra, please inform us when you alter details in your opening post.
SS
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Just about to but the phone rung sorry
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Now need the parents names of Thomas Lewis and Mary Ann Horan as on the marriage entry not what is on Ancestry or My heritage etc. If anyone Can help Thats would be great,
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As has already said, parents were not named on marriages at that time. Fathers named after July 1837.
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Mary Ann Horan as born 7 minuets past 11o'clock Wednesday 24th January 1809 Portsea. Her parents Timothy Horan & Mary
They do not appear on 1841 uk census because:
After her marriage to Thomas Lewis they travelled to Adelaide SA between 1836-41. A daughter Mary Chapman Lewis was born 1840/41 in Adelaide. Thomas the father died in Adelaide in 1841 no age recorded. By 1851 widow Mary Ann Lewis has travelled back to the UK and remarried William Henry Mullinger in 1850. They appear in 1851 census. Mary Ann died 1887 Portsea.
SS
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Hello, Yes I have had all this information for a few years , However there are a lot of mistakes on the Horan Bible,and there were a few Mary Ann Horan's in Portsea at the same time. There is also documents of Timothy Horan being a tailor and not a sailor. and no DNA matches with Mary Anns siblings apart from one and she doesnt have a DNA match with anyone else apart from myself. Gedmatch are also showing the same matches as Ancestry.
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Also when Timothy married Hannah he was entered as Horne not Horan occuptation Tailor . Maybe we should be looking for Mary Ann Horne .
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Hi, I appreciate you wanting to have documental evidence for your research. This is only possible sometimes as you will know in buying certificates.
Looking at various baptism records for the children of Timothy & Hannah Horan suggests his occupation as a Tailor/Taylor.
Baptism records of Thomas & Mary Lewis children show his occupation as a cordwainer.
The marriage certificate of Mary Ann Lewis/ William Henry Mullinger in 1850 may show her father as Timothy with an occupation unless it just records deceased.
Sorry cant help any further.
SS
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Thank you SS , Yes this is the thing it's a bit early for marriage certificates, and as you say the wedding certificate for Mary to William Mullinger says Timothy then deceased. But what I am saying is did Thomas Lewis senior actually mary Mary Ann Horan or was she married previously for a short time to a Horan and a different family to the sailors (this could have been a different Horan family and a differnt Mary Lewis who married William) or was it actually Mary Ann Horn who married Thomas. How many people on here are on Ancestry and have a DNA match with anyone tracing the Horan Sailing family ? Out of all those children Hannah and Timothy had I have a DNA match with one person then we both have a match with another person from a different Horan family. Very strange ,unless one of us was bought in Tesco lol