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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Valerie231059 on Monday 29 January 24 17:41 GMT (UK)
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I have a brick wall situation.
Alfred William LINTON born ABT 1870 place unknown
Married Ada Ellen Killick, 1907 Sheppey, Kent
Father of Alfred is "deceased" also named Alfred.
I have the marriage certificate.
I cannot find a birth record for Alfred William
Ada Ellen re married in 1914/15 to William Cornhill.
So I'm looking for a divorce or death record for Alfred William Linton - "Painter RN" IN 1907
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Ada remarried as Killick - not Linton - March qtr 1914. . Do you have that cert showing her marital status?
If she was a widow & Alfred was in the RN - he may have died at sea
Son William Alfred was b 1908
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The only birth is this one
June qtr 1870 Alfred William Linton - Ashbourne 7b 526
Parents Alfred Linton & Mary nee Keeling
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There is a navy record for an Alfred Linton born25th June 1868 Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
Could be another man entirely though.
Cathy
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https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6778419
Same thoughts CaroleW !
Cathy
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Was looking at the same Cath..
RN Record gives him as painter
Name Alfred Linton
Birth Date 25 Jun 1868
Birth Place Ashbourne, Derby
First Service Date 12 Nov 1898
First Ship Served On Pembroke II
Last Service Date 11 Jan 1909
Last Ship Served On Charybdis
Service Number 340973
Cas
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I have the marriage certificate, Ada Ellen Killick was a spinster, married Alfred William Linton 1907 Batchelor. They both lived at 17 Victory Street, Sheerness. They had two children one born in 1908 William Alfred & Dorothy born in 1905. I will check the other info you have given.
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No 1868 birth only the 1870 one above
1871 shows him as Alfred W Linton 9 months old living in Ashbourne but b Sturston
Father Alfred was b Middlesex 1845 - occ Painter
Mother Mary was b 1850 Clifton Derbyshire
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Wow thanks for the Navy info. The story is that the sons, stepfather didn't want him and he was put into a children's home. He must have still had contact with his mum. He was never adopted but age 15 was sent to Canada.
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Dorothy’s birth reg shows mmn Killick but she was born 2yrs before the marriage
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The fathers prof on the marriage certificate of his son (although deceased) was "contractor builder"
I have the marriage certificate, Ada Ellen Killick was a spinster, married Alfred William Linton 1907 Batchelor. They both lived at 17 Victory Street, Sheerness. They had two children one born in 1908 William Alfred & Dorothy born in 1905. I will check the other info you have given.
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Cas didn’t mention that on his Naval record he is recorded as Run on his last service date 11th Jan 1909.
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Going back to the 1871 census entry - parents have moved to Leicestershire by 1881 & have 2 more children - but Alfred is not with them.
Alfred snr is now shown as b Loughborough but is still a painter. Births of children John Charles 8 & Tom Bennett both show mmn as Keeling
Can’t find Alfred in 1881 but there is a 21yr old Alfred Linton b Ashbourne - occ show rivetter - living with parents Alfred - master builder b Leicester. Wife is now Elizabeth b Northants & other 2 children on 1881 census are not with them
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Alfred deserting from the navy may be the reason Ada remarried in her maiden name, probably bigamously. Her second marriage certificate should show how she declared her marital status.
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Cas didn’t mention that on his Naval record he is recorded as Run on his last service date 11th Jan 1909.
Did not see any significance in 'Run' as not being up on military speak. Looked it up it basically means deserted.
DR - deserted or DD - Dead. Nothing mentioned on record except Run 11 Jan 1909 so he never returned after the date given.
Cas
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I wonder where his last ship was when he "Run" ?
I will need to check the marriage cert for Ada to her 2nd husband. (I don't have a copy of it yet).
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Remarks on bottom of record state
Run 11 Jan 1909 Charybdis Chatham
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I wonder where his last ship was when he "Run" ?
I will need to check the marriage cert for Ada to her 2nd husband. (I don't have a copy of it yet).
Do let us know if you get Ada’s second marriage certificate. It’s a shame it comes under Sheppey and not Medway where all their records are online and free.
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I wonder where his last ship was when he "Run" ?
I will need to check the marriage cert for Ada to her 2nd husband. (I don't have a copy of it yet).
Do let us know if you get Ada’s second marriage certificate. It’s a shame it comes under Sheppey and not Medway where all their records are online and free.
I will let you know. Everyone has been very helpful. The Pembroke II was a training ship. Shame it's Sheppey as I will have to order a pdf copy, and as I live abroad it will take about 10 days. Ada had a difficult life by the sound of it as her 2nd husband also died in 1915
So whatever happened to her 1st husband will remain a mystery.