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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex => England => Sussex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: gougy on Saturday 10 September 05 22:47 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Could somebody have a look for Charles CUNNINGHAM (b.1847 Houghton - wife Mary b1846 Bury) and family, living at The George and Dragon pub in Houghton, in the 1901 census please?
Also if anyone has the Sussex Marriage Index could they see if they could find Charles and Mary' marriage listed? Would love to know her maiden name. Their first child was born in 1875 so the marriage would probably be between 1862-74
Many thanks
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Hi there Gougy
1901 census for Houghton
RG13/ 5337/ Folio 18/ Page 7 - George & Dragon, Houghton
Charles Cunningham, 54, born Houghton, Sussex, Head - Publican
Edith Cunningham, 14, born Houghton, Sussex, Daughter.
Ellen Cunningham, 26, born Houghton, Sussex, Daughter.
John Cunningham, 20, born Houghton, Sussex, Son.
Lottie Cunningham, 21, born Houghton, Sussex, Daughter.
Mary Cunningham, 56, born Bury, Sussex, Wife.
Hope that helps you
Chris in 1066
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Gougy
"Also if anyone has the Sussex Marriage Index could they see if they could find Charles and Mary' marriage listed? Would love to know her maiden name. Their first child was born in 1875 so the marriage would probably be between 1862-74"
Sorry, but the Sussex Marriage Index cut off date is 1837 - the start of civil registration.
Try this link to find the marriage
UkBMD
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/
Chris in 1066
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Thanks Chris - wasn't thinking when I posted that bit about the SMI!! Ooops! :)
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Its a long time after this was posted - but just to update the information. I am a direct descendant of Charles Cunningham via his daughter Flora. His wife was Mary Goodyer, her parents Clement and Mary.
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Hello Steve,
I am very sorry but you have replied to a member we have sadly lost contact with. I did do a little search for gougy but nothing came up :'( When we loose touch we do leave a note underneath the profile name.
Old members do get back in touch frequently, I hope that this will be the case with gougy.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Its a long time after this was posted - but just to update the information. I am a direct descendant of Charles Cunningham via his daughter Flora. His wife was Mary Goodyer, her parents Clement and Mary.
I am a direct descendant of Mary Goodyer's brother - John Trevatt Goodyer. Trevatt was the maiden name of their mother Mary. I have quite a lot of information on the Goodyers of Bury.
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Hello Lizzie,
I don't think I have ever looked for the origins of Clement and Mary Goodyer, but they are our common ancestors. I didn't know Mary was a Trevatt, so have added that, but now I look her up she has married very late (aged 34 in 1844?). The 1841 census for Bury appears to show her with parents John and Esther, and another Mary Trevatt aged 8. I might follow that up one rainy day, and the Goodyer side too, but I have admitted defeat for the moment with the Cunninghams c1780 in Glasgow area.
Steve
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Mary Trevatt was baptised in Pulborough on 10 June 1810 d/ o John and Esther (nee Child). The 8 year old Mary with the family in 1841 is the daughter of Mary's older brother Charles and his wife Mary (nee Stace). Charles and family are in Pulborough in 1841 with their other children.
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Thanks for explaing the two Marys.
Sometimes its interesting to see the families following specific trades, such as wheelwrights or publicans in this case - in fact it can be a helpful clue when deciding which family is which. I can see a publicans in the Trevatt, and so was Clement Goodyer, but also Mary Goodyer married Charles Cunningham and both he and his father before him ran the George and Dragon in Houghton, Sussex, and their father before them was a publican at The Old Inn, Houghton (which could even be the same pub's original name). Charles' daughter Edith (my Aunt Edie) ran the Black Horse in Amberley until about 1960, she was married to John Alexander Jackson, who I believe died of drink. So 4 generations of publicans.
By coincidence the paternal side of my family, miles away in Cheshire also had publicans in it.
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Clement was for a short time the landlord of the White Horse in Bury. Just outside the village on the main road, but it's changed its name now to the Squire and Horse.
Clement's father William was a wheelwright. He married Elizabeth Christopher. There was another slightly younger William and Elizabeth Goodyer baptising children in Bury which slightly overlapped. The other William was a carpenter. Only by the vicar stating occupation on baptism records, was I able to sort out the two families. I think the two Williams may have been distant cousins.
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I knew there were some more wheelwrights on the Cunningham side. Charles Cunningham's father Robert was down as Wheelwright and Inn Keeper in the 1851 census (in Houghton). Later, when Charles was the Landlord of the George & Dragon in Houghton, his brother, Clement, was the Wheelwright in Houghton.
I think I have managed to locate the source of the Cunningham's in Houghton back to Barony, Lanarkshire. Looks like Robert Cunningham joined the Royal Horse Artillery aged 20 in 1797 in Scotland, and on leaving ended up in Sussex where he lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1863.
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Interested in chatting with CheshireSteve who posted: I think I have managed to locate the source of the Cunningham's in Houghton back to Barony, Lanarkshire.
Robert Cunningham is my three times great grandfather. And there the line ends...until now?
Regards,
Lesley
Arnprior, Ontario, Canada
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Hello and welcome to Rootschat
Cheshire Steve hasn't been on the site since March. But he should get an email notification that there's been a reply to a thread he's contributed to.
When you have made three posts you will be able to send him a PM
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Thanks very much!
Lesley
Arnprior, Ontario, Canada
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Lizzie was correct, I got a notification via e-mail.
I agree about Barony, and believe the Robert Cunningham that is our common ancestor, was christened 3rd August 1777, Barony (Near Glasgow), Lanarkshire, to father William and mother Helen. Not sure how hard and fast this is, but that gives siblings William (b1772) and Janet (b1775), and marriage of William and Helen Wallace (maybe Willat, Wallas) 30 Nov 1771 Barony. Its been a while since I looked into this, so can't remember how tenuous the information is. My notes say Robert "Enlisted aged 20 Soldiers Unit, 3 Battalion, Royal Artillery", and it seems when he came out of the army he headed south.
Lesley, I am decendant from the Cunninghams via Welton and Wyatt, and there are Wyatts in Canada near you, so are you part of that family branch?
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I am descended from Robert Cunningham through his daughter Caroline, who married my two times great grandfather Henry Pope of Heyshott. The Popes stayed in England - my father (whose mother was a Lena Pope) brought our family to Canada in 1966.
Robert was as gunner with the Royal Horse Artillery - the Waterloo Medal roll puts him in Lt. Col. Gardiner's E Troop. Robert enlisted at age 18, in 1797 which would put his birth about 1779 - and he served for just short of 24 years. After that, he moved his family south, to Sussex.
Would like to PM you.
L.
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Hi
The PM facility is very easy. Just click on the letter icon under someone's user name and follow instructions.