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Looking for some information on a James Cook born 1805 died in 1885 Alresford. He married a Elizabeth Harfield in 1823 she was also married to a William Bowley not sure if it was before James. Can't seem to find much on the Cook family. Also think there may be a connection to Basingstoke.
Thanks in advance.
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Where do you have James on census in 1881.
Where did he marry Elizabeth
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Is this the marriage.??
James Cook
Spouse Elizabeth Harfield
Marriage date 11 Oct 1823
Residence Cliddesden, Hampshire, England
Marriage place Cliddesden
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Thank you Kay :)
Possible children baptised at Cliddesden
Ann 01 Feb 1824
William 25 Feb 1829
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Yes that's him. In 1881 he was in boardings. He was a naval pensioner. He was a widower at this time. Not sure who his parents could be?
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In 1841 Ann (15) and William (12) plus other siblings John (14) & Mary (5) Cook are with William and Elizabeth Bowley.
William and Elizabeth have a daughter Elizabeth
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BOWLEY, ELIZABETH HARRIETT Mothers maiden surname HARFIELD
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BASINGSTOKE Volume 07 Page 48
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Marriage Sep qtr 1839
BOWLEY William
COOKE Elizabeth
Basingstoke 7 64
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Forgot to mention Elizabeth Cook died in 1843.
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she was also married to a William Bowley not sure if it was before James.
How could Elizabeth have married someone else if James was alive until 1885 :-\
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Forgot to mention Elizabeth Cook died in 1843.
William Bowley was widowed in 1851, has daughter Elizabeth Bowley living with him but no Cook children
ADDED
Death
BOWLEY, ELIZABETH age 41
GRO Reference: 1843 Dec Quarter in BASINGSTOKE Volume 07 Page 39
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How have you linked the James Cook who died in 1885 to the one who married Elizabeth Harfield
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From there daughter Ann Cook
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From there daughter Ann Cook
How :-\
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Yes that's him. In 1881 he was in boardings. He was a naval pensioner. He was a widower at this time. Not sure who his parents could be?
1881 20 Rutland Street, Portsea
Peter Bilty 43 Army pensioner & beer retailer bn France
Sarah Bilty 39 born Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire
James Cook - Boarder Widower 76 (1805) Naval pensioner BORN Portsmouth, Hampshire
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Yes that's what I got on the 1881 census
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In 1871 he is with wife Harriet age 53 and son
James John 18 in Portsea occ Naval Pensioner
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1861 Harriet is in Portsea with children John 10 and Mary Ann 3. Harriet is listed as Married, presumably James is at sea :-\
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COOK, MARY ANN mmn TAGG
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 387
COOK, JOHN JAMES mmn TAGG
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 02B Page 378
Marriage June qtr 1847
Cook James
TAGG Harriet
Portsea 7 212
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Thanks I've made a big blunder there. So Harfield has nothing to do with them am I right?
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Possibly James who died 1885 Navy record, he gives his place of birth as Hayling Island on a census
James Cook
Entry date 07 Aug 1830
Age 25
Birth place Hayling Island
Rank Able Seaman
Ship or unit Winchester
Archive reference (ADM) 37/8487
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Thanks I've made a big blunder there. So Harfield has nothing to do with them am I right?
We cannot tell without you telling us who the family are that you are following. Which of James children are you looking at
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It's Ann Cook born 1824 Basingstoke who married John Bartlett 30th November 1850.
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Thank you :)
Marriage took place at Basingstoke father James Cook occupation Lab(ourer). Ann signed her name.
1851 gives place of birth for both of them as Basingstoke, they are living in Hackwood Road which is where the Bowleys were in 1841. This seems to indicate that Harfield is linked.
ADDED still in Hackwood Road in 1861 - John, Ann and children
It is the James Cook that you have dying in 1885 that we have not yet linked to this family
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Yes that's address I have. This is the James cook I have as Ann's father. I had. Her mother down as a Harfield though not a Tagg. I'm getting a bit confused now. Plus was Bowley married to Ann or not?
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Marriage Sep qtr 1839
BOWLEY William
COOKE Elizabeth
Basingstoke 7 64
BOWLEY, ELIZABETH HARRIETT Mothers maiden surname HARFIELD
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BASINGSTOKE Volume 07 Page 48
I cannot see any link at the moment to the James who died in 1885 who appears to have been married to Harriet Tagg and lived in Portsea.
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Working from the Cook children listed on the 1841 census, the youngest is Mary Ann. On her baptism 1 April 1836, there is no father listed, just mother Elizabeth. So looks like James is out of the picture by this time.
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Probably at sea.
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I doubt that he would be in the navy and living in Basingstoke area, Portsea is nearly 50 miles away
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There is this burial transcribed on FindMyPast but no age given
James Cooke
Place Basingstoke
Burial date 28 Apr 1835
Subcategory Parish Burials
Burial place Basingstoke, Hampshire
Sorry found another entry that list him as 21 :-\
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The image is on Ancestry Kay, he is 21
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The image is on Ancestry Kay, he is 21
Thanks - I should have checked pre posting
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Marriage image for James and Elizabeth gives James of the parish of Ellisfield, he was a bachelor. Elizabeth was of Cliddesden - witnesses John Harfield, Sarah Harfield
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Working from the Cook children listed on the 1841 census, the youngest is Mary Ann. On her baptism 1 April 1836, there is no father listed, just mother Elizabeth. So looks like James is out of the picture by this time.
The transcript mentions that Elizabeth was A Pauper :-\
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likely baptism for Sarah Harfield, witness to the marriage
Cliddesden 17 July 1799 Sarah daughter of John & Ann Harfield
also
Cliddesden 3 July 1803 Elizabeth daughter of John Harfield
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When Elizabeth married William Bowley she stated that she was a Widow, William was a Widower.
Elizabeths father was John Harfield occ Labr and the witnesses were John Harfield and Mary Harfield
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parish entry for 1839 marriage
parish church of Basingstoke 9 Sept 1839
William Bowley full widower labourer Basingstoke father William Bowley labourer
Elizabeth Cooke full widow Basingstoke father John Harfield labourer
witnesses John Harfield & Mary Harfield, William & Mary both marked.
I think the witness John is a brother of Elizabeth, he was baptised in Cliddesden 28 July 1805.
red post, sorry was just typing up details.
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I know that this must be unrelated but it is a coincidence that in 1841 living next door to William and Elizabeth Bowley was a James Cook age 45 blacksmith with daughter Mary Ann who in 1843 appears to marry William Smallbone :-\
Kay