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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: pwl1951 on Tuesday 23 January 24 20:56 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for uniform identification from photo. Not even sure it is a military uniform.
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Yes, it is an army uniform. Looks to be an officer.
But if you want any chance at identification you need to generate a much higher resolution scan.
Particularly of the collar badges, and of the helmet badge.
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The Sam Browne belt suggests 1900 or later. Looks out of place with late 19th century uniform.
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I've just checked the Army Dress Regulations for Officers 1913, and nowhere does it authorise the wearing of a Sam Browne with Full Dress or Undress Uniform, which is what this chap is wearing. The only time I've come across this is during sword drill, or rehearsal parades (eg at Sandhurst) where swords are carried.
There is a reference on Wikipedia (fourth paragraph of this section of the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Browne_belt#United_Kingdom_and_the_Commonwealth)) which says the wearing of the Sam Browne was authorised for officers and WO1s by the Australian Army 'on ceremonial occasions' but at no point does the article or the source document (https://www.army.gov.au/about-us/history-and-research/traditions/sam-browne-belt) mention either Full Dress, Undress or No1 uniform, so I think that's a red herring. That statement would also apply to the British Army where No2 dress was worn on parade.
Given that this would appear to be an unauthorised form of dress, perhaps the photograph is not of a real soldier/officer, or is some sort of fancy dress or stage costume.
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https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/53691420531775971/
doing a web search for above phot brings this up a soldier I thik in same uniform
Brilliant picture of Private William Roy (1st battalion 24th Regiment of foot) He was in Hospital with Malaria and fought throughout the battle and for his actions was awarded the DCM (Distinguished
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https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/53691420531775971/
doing a web search for above phot brings this up a soldier I thik in same uniform
Not really the 'same' uniform unfortunately. Yes, it's a dress tunic like the one in the OP's photo, but not from the same regiment. Note the different piping on the lower sleeves, different facings (collar) and different plate (badge) on the helmet. Most Infantry regiments wore a version of this tunic at the end of the nineteenth century.
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shucks sorry must get my eyes tested ;D ;D
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Would agree that this is probably some sort of fancy dress or stage costume.
If the photo is originally taken in colour, then most likely after WW2.
The pose, with two hands on the belt is very unusual for a soldier portrait.
Tony
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I thought it colorized.
If really an original color photo, then has to be from a much later period.
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The Sam Browne belt would not be worn with that tunic and helmet if he was an officer. It would be worn with khaki. I suspect you have someone dressing up.