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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: ladymerle1 on Tuesday 23 January 24 08:13 GMT (UK)
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Thomas was the son of Edward Richards, a church warden.
He married Elizabeth Jones in 1834.
He may have lived in Llanarmon MM or Llanrhaeadr YM after that.
He committed a crime and was transported to Australia 1940.
Can anyone help me find out his crime and transportation details?
Many thanks 🙏
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There is an entry for a Thomas Richards, 25, in the Denbighshire Criminal Records, Quarter Sessions held on 4 August 1840. Crime was Larceny and was sentenced to transportation, 7 years.
He seems to have been recorded for similar crimes earlier as there is a similar entry in June that year when he was sentenced to imprisonment.
Add - two earlier entries (1824 and 1838) for Larceny but not sure if this was the same person. The 1838 one was of a similar age.
Gadget
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Gadget…you are a star!
Thank you so much, a relative in Tasmania is trying to trace his roots!
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Transported to Tasmania on 12 March 1842, on the Eden.**
Happy to help :)
** same trial date.
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Gadget….Does this last reply fit with your findings?
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More or Less, LM.
I was a little perplexed as to why the details were repeated, with no ref to my findings.
There should be something in Welsh Newspapers Online but I'm away for a while. I'll check when I get back if no one else finds a report in the meantime.
Also, there is an interesting entry in the 1841. Again, it would need more investigation. There are many Richards in that part of Denbighshire.
Gadget
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Intrigued you should say that c1841 is interesting as I cannot find Elizabeth, Thomas nor any of their 3 children Charles (b 1835),Eliza (b 1838) and Job (b Jan 1841) ::)
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Sadly, the one I found wasn't him. Also, if he was in jail, he would be recorded as T. R. in 1841.
I've looked for Elizabeth and children but, like you can't find then in 1841 but they are in Llanrhaiadr, YM in 1851, I think:
HO107/2499/587/4
Elizabeth recorded as a widow and a baker. Charles not with them. Eliza and Job b. Llanrhaeadr YM.
I assume you have them?
I on;y looked for Thomas in Denbighshire institutions and wondering if he could have been in Montgomeryshire or Shropshire. If he was to be deported, he could have been anywhere though and with the initials only he will be difficult to find :-\
Gadget
add - not in missing piece lists either
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I wonder ??
Llanrhaeadr was in the Llanfyllin Poor Law area so they could be there.
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Llanfyllin/
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Found them in 1841
1841
Llanrhaeadr YM HO107/1435/6/44/14
Job named John aged 4 mths
Gadget
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Fantastic! Thank you sooooo much.
I would not have thought to look for Prichard nor John!!!
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It was just a thought while I was making spiced turkey burgers for supper ;D
Did you grow up in Glyn?
Just wondering in case you attended Dinas Bran School? We might have overlapped.
(It was Llangollen Grammar School when I started there but changed to DB when I when in 6th form! )
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No..went to Oswestry Girls’ High from Llanrhaeadr YM 😊
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Not sure if these have been mentioned so far
Llansilin Burials
24 July 1849
Edward Richards, Parish Clerk of Llansilin, aged 69
Also:
Llangollen, 28 May 1796
Edward Richards, of the parish of Llancadwaladr, bachelor, and Margaret Jones of the parish of Llangollen, spinster were married by licence
(Note the parish of Llangollen is extensive and borders the parishes of Llansilin and Selattyn to the south)
Gadget
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Baptisms to other children of Edward and Margaret in Llancadwaladr:
8 March 1799, Edward.
(Register signed by Edward Richards, Church Warden)
15 April 1805, Hugh
Gadget