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Title: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: RebekahBakes32 on Tuesday 23 January 24 07:44 GMT (UK)
Hi I am tracing the parents for Thomas Holland born in 1790 in Dunstable Bedfordshire England his spouse is Mary Shinnan. I also would like his date of death so I can add it to the family tree if anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Regards

Rebekah
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 24 January 24 10:27 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.

Is he in Lincolnshire 1851 Census born c 1792 Dunstable, Bedfordshire?

Buried 11 Oct 1853, St James, Spilsby.
Age 66

Bapt;
28 Nov 1791, St Peter, Dunstable, Bedfordshire
THO Holland to THO/ELIZ
Sibling;
HEN bapt same day 28 Nov 1791, birth 01 Dec 1789

Burial same Church;
THO Holland 14 Aug 1807 age 45

Above on FreeREG

1851 Thomas and I presume second Wife Martha have a Sarah Holland, Neice, age 25 with them.
Looking back she is Henrys Daughter.

Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: RebekahBakes32 on Wednesday 24 January 24 10:50 GMT (UK)
All I know is they had a child named Mary Ann Holland because born 18th of August 1811. She was christened on the 27th of September 1812 in St Dunstan Stepney London and died in Launceston Tasmania, Australia on the 3rd of August 1856 and was buried on the 7th of August 1856 in Cypress street Launceston, Tasmania. Thomas wife Mary Shinnan was born on the 11th of June 1783 in St Quviox, Ayr, Scotland doesn’t list her death date though and was christened on the 13th of June 1783


Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 January 24 14:40 GMT (UK)
Hi I am tracing the parents for Thomas Holland born in 1790 in Dunstable Bedfordshire England his spouse is Mary Shinnan.

Where and when did they marry.   


ADDED
What is your source of Mary Ann's parents names, presumably she married Frederick Soden in Tasmania c1839.
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 January 24 15:10 GMT (UK)
The Thomas born c1791 Dunstable who was living in Lincolnshire was a Doctor. (Practising Physician)

The father of Mary Ann Holland born Stepney was a Mariner

Parish of St Dunstan, Stepney
Mary Ann
Father Thomas Holland occupation Mariner
Mother-  Mary (Deceased)
Address Poplar
Birth 18/08/1811
Baptism  27 Sep 1812
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 January 24 15:26 GMT (UK)
Mary Shinnan was born on the 11th of June 1783 in St Quviox, Ayr, Scotland doesn’t list her death date though and was christened on the 13th of June 1783

Parents were James Shinnan and Margaret Dick.

What doesn't list her death date ?
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 January 24 17:26 GMT (UK)
The Thomas born c1791 Dunstable who was living in Lincolnshire was a Doctor. (Practising Physician) - Wife Martha

Death
HOLLAND, MARTHA    age   49 
GRO Reference: 1851  June Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG  Volume 14  Page 255


Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 28 January 24 17:50 GMT (UK)
Could be the death of mother Mary.
 11Jan 1812 Mary Holland of Poplar age is 28.

 One marriage to consider Thomas Holland to Mary Hunter. Mary given as from the parish of St Dunstan Stepney.
 
 29th Dec 1810.

 Tazzie
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 January 24 19:03 GMT (UK)
It looks like we need to know how these records have been linked to Mary Ann Holland in Tasmania.  Online trees do not look that reliable


Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 28 January 24 20:36 GMT (UK)
It looks like we need to know how these records have been linked to Mary Ann Holland in Tasmania.  Online trees do not look that reliable

 Yes I've looked through them they are all over the place.

 What was on the marriage cert in 1839?
Title: Re: Tracing the parents to Thomas Holland
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 30 January 24 14:51 GMT (UK)
As Mary Ann was in Tasmania before the 1841 census we have little to go on with UK records.

Have you any idea when she arrived in Tasmania, are there any records.

What information does her marriage give.

What information does her death certificate give.