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I can see there is a Helen Softly b. 1889/1900 on the 1901 Index in Walker, Tynemouth, Northumberland. Parents on 1911 census are William and Catherine.
Would very much like to know who else was with her in 1901. In particular if a sibling Robert was with her.
Kind regards
KA
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1901 4806 /83/4
12 Pit Street
Robert E Softly, 11 yrs
With parents William and Kate and siblings
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Thanks for that. In particular for confirmation middle initial is an E. Much obliged.
KA
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This could be of interest for you.
Geneanet Community Trees Index.
https://gw.geneanet.org/lancelot2?n=softley&oc=&p=robert+edward
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra. I'll take a look.
Robert is a real man of mystery. Marries in 1912, has a family, but then disappears before the 1921 census never to appear on any documentation at all. I can't even reliably find him on passenger lists.
KA
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UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Robert Softly born 1890 - aged 48 years - Labourer.
Port of Departure Quebec, Canada - Arrival Date 29 Sep 1938
Port of Arrival Southampton, England - Ports of Voyage Quebec and Cherbourg
Ship Name Empress of Britain
Shipping Line Canadian Pacific Line
Going to 44 Crown Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne - Intended future residence England.
Sandra
Added. .Long shot probably but didn't see him in Scotland.
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You will find him at that address in 1939.
We aren’t allowed to post details.
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Correction
That is not him.
I think that is Robert Finkle Softley.
In 1932, Robert F S is living with Rachel Mackay in Lawton Street.
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Thank you Sandra. I'll take a look.
Robert is a real man of mystery. Marries in 1912, has a family, but then disappears before the 1921 census never to appear on any documentation at all. I can't even reliably find him on passenger lists.
KA
Where did he marry in 1912? I can’t see it yet.
Who did he marry?
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Think that might be under the Softley spelling
Softley Robert Watson Newcastle T. 10b 47
Watson Isabella Softley Newcastle T. 10b 47
Softly births
Births Jun 1913
Softley Annie L Watson Newcastle T. 10b 312
Births Sep 1914
Softley Catherine Watson Tynemouth 10b 581
Births Sep 1916
Softley William Watson Tynemouth 10b 564
Births Dec 1926
Softley Elsie Watson Newcastle T. 10b 210
Sandra
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I was about to ask who he married - when were his children born?
Does his wife claim to be married/widowed later on or :-\
There is a medal card for a Robert Softley from WW1 - could that be why he disappeared?
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Hmm another UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 for Robert Softly. Does 5th of the address on these passenger lists mean anything ?
Robert Softly - aged 26 years - glass blower - going to 90 Gill Street. Newcastle Upon Tyne.
arriving 6 June 1926 - Montreal to Liverpool - on the Montrose. Intended future residence England.
Sandra
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He married Isabella in 1912. Has three children between 1913 and 1916. Disappears for a bit (Isabella on 1921 census as head of house and married). then further child in 1926, after which he is never heard of again. (But this suggested to me perhaps a period of working abroad for several years, maybe starting another family. Returning 1925 ish, it not working out, and him returning abroad again.)
Like you I got very excited over robert Finkle Softly, who would have fitted brilliantly. However I can find a Birth reg for Robert Finkle Softly, which rather spoilt my investigations >:(
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Maybe he did not return to father the child born 1926, Isabella as a married woman could have registered the birth without him present. I wonder who registered the birth
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Think that might be under the Softley spelling
Softley Robert Watson Newcastle T. 10b 47
Watson Isabella Softley Newcastle T. 10b 47
Sandra
Thanks Sandra. I had tried that and just checked again. Ancestry doesn’t seem to show him.
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England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
No Robert listed :-\
Isabella Watson
Spouse Surname Softley
Registration Year 1912 - [1912]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec - Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County Northumberland
Volume 10b Page 47
John Christie
Margaret Lattimer
Isabella Watson
Sandra
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Yes, that’s what I found, Sandra.
He married Isabella in 1912. Has three children between 1913 and 1916. Disappears for a bit (Isabella on 1921 census as head of house and married). then further child in 1926, after which he is never heard of again. (But this suggested to me perhaps a period of working abroad for several years, maybe starting another family. Returning 1925 ish, it not working out, and him returning abroad again.)
Have you tried Electoral Registers 1921 - 1926?
Rosie has a valid point in that he may not be the father of the youngest child after such a gap.
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Just musing really.
What occupation is given for him on any children's marriage certificates?
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as Isabella Softley was cremated Newcastle Upon Tyne, 18th April 1979
there are no further details , free BMD record Softley Isabella birth date 1 st November 1892 death recorded June 1979
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In 1911 he is living with his parents William and Catherine and his siblings. His father's occupation is Ship Plater and Roberts occupation is Platers helper. The family are living at 12 Berry Street, Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne.
Chris