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Title: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 01 January 24 11:35 GMT (UK)
The above married John William Simmons (1897-1992) 2 Jan 1917 Peterborough, Ontario. They had 6 children of whom I can't find records for 4 of them, neither birth, marriage or death. They were: John born c. 1918, Helen born c 1918 too, Betty A born c1925 and Minnie born c 1927. These were all shown on the 1931 Canada census at 155 Hart Ave, Peterborough West. After that nothing substantial.
The other 2 children were Robert Marshall 1919-1920 and Dorothy Mabel Loraine 1923-2017 who married James Roy Rogers but don't know when or where?
Happy and Healthy New Year to you All.
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 11:57 GMT (UK)
To start you off in 2024...............

Birth records are released to the public after 104 years, marriages after 82 years, and deaths after 72 years.

Betty Aldyne Suttak - Maiden Name   Simmons  (with photograph)

Obituary:-
The Windsor Star
Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Tue, 23 Jul 2019 Page C6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-windsor-star/137810619/

FIND A GRAVE

Betty Aldyne Simmons Suttak

Greenlawn Memorial Gardens Oldcastle, Essex County, Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201362032/betty-aldyne-suttak

spouse John Peter Suttak  (1923 - 2015)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201362304/john-peter-suttak

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 12:06 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE  with obit attached


Dorothy Mabel Lorraine Simmons Rogers
13 Nov 1923 - died 12 Dec 2017 (aged 94 years)
Peterborough, Peterborough County, Ontario, Canada

burial  Little Lake Cemetery Peterborough, Peterborough County, Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/224807652/dorothy-mabel_lorraine-rogers

obit with photograph - Passed away peacefully at Canterbury Gardens on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 in her 95th year.   Survived by sisters-in-law Thelma Simmons and Brenda Bills. Predeceased by her sisters Helen and Dolly and her brother Jack.

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/peterborough-on/dorothy-rogers-7677263

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 12:12 GMT (UK)
Thelma Simmons with photograph(mentioned in the obituary of Dorothy ..........) wife of the late John (Jack) Simmons

https://www.arbormemorial.ca/en/nisbett/obituaries/thelma-simmons/44214.html

FIND A GRAVE

John W. “Jack” Simmons  1918 - 1992

Little Lake Cemetery
Peterborough, Peterborough County, Ontario, Canada
PLOT Section B

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171184228/john-w-simmons

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 12:32 GMT (UK)

 
Obit - HOCKADAY, Muriel ""Dolly""  - passed Friday September 21, 2012 at the Peterborough Regional Health Centre.


https://hendrenfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/1826/Dolly-Hockaday/obituary.html

This is starting to ring a bell, have we done this family before ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 12:35 GMT (UK)


Oh blimey, see this thread John ...........previous thread October 2023 -

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877531.0

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 01 January 24 12:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
You're quick off the mark-were you like me, teetotal for New Year's Eve?
There seems to be a problem with 'Dolly' Hockaday, I looked at her on Anc before and don't think she was from the same family as the other 6 unless she was Minnie?
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Monday 01 January 24 13:11 GMT (UK)
There was a Muriel Simmons on the 1931 Census, whose parents were William Charles and Hanna Jane living in Deloro-I wonder if this is 'Dolly'?
What a pity we can't access the births and marriages for the family?
There seems to be no report of Dorothy marrying James Rogers?
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 01 January 24 15:01 GMT (UK)
Tend to go for something "zero" - non - alcoholic   :)

If you read the obit for Muriel. it says she was survives by her sister in law Thelma Simmons.
A 1928 birth also fits Muriel.

On the 1931 - Muriel Simmons was under - E Simmous Muriel  aged 3 years and with the rest of the Simmons family - see reply 14 on that other thread.

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Tuesday 02 January 24 11:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
Yes me too I was drinking diet lemonade and coffee!
Thank you once again for your excellent research and I guess I'll have to go with Muriel as 'Minnie'.
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 02 January 24 11:58 GMT (UK)

I think that is a version that is often used for a Muriel.  Everything in that obit seemed to make sense.

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Tuesday 02 January 24 12:01 GMT (UK)
Yes it seems so Sandra.
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Tuesday 02 January 24 14:06 GMT (UK)
Another problem with 'Muriel' is that a Muriel Brick married Clayton Hockaday 19 Oct 1939, he was born 1916 they married at Douro, Peterborough, Ontario. Is it possible that he married twice to 2 Muriel's?
His parents were Harry Thomas Hockaday and Bertha Northey.
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 02 January 24 14:29 GMT (UK)
Clayton was married twice - obit for Muriel Frances Brick
Zelda/Eric/Harry and Joyce were the children with first wife.

The Toronto Star
Toronto, Ontario, Canada 
Tue, 3 Dec 1963 Page 30

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star/137885793/

Sandra
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Tuesday 02 January 24 15:41 GMT (UK)
Superb, Sandra, well spotted. He was keen on children with 12 of them!
Thank you very much.
Cr
Title: Re: Minnie Shepherdson born 23 Mar 1897 Ontario, Canada
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 02 January 24 15:55 GMT (UK)
Muriel the first - only had 4 of them - Z/Eric/H and J

Eric was born in Peterborough, Ontario to Clayton and Muriel (Dolly) Hockaday on September 20, 1943. Passed away 11 May 2019

obit with photograph

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/port-alberni-bc/eric-hockaday-8724885

daughter "Z" is on facebook
daughter "J" is on facebook

If you read the obit for Dolly (Muriel) - the son H has a wife "K" - also on facebook 

Sandra