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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: hencarrai on Sunday 31 December 23 09:28 GMT (UK)
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Hi, Happy New Year to all.
My wife has a brother John( my brother in law?).
John has a daughter Gillian (my niece?)
If my wife and I divorce, is Gillian still my niece?
Thanks
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On the same vane I have a family member who was in a similar situation to the then Prince Charles.
Was he a widower or a divorcee when before he marries Camilla ?
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I have absolutely no legal qualifications except that I’ve been there twice….
As your ex is no longer your wife, then your former family relationships also ‘disappear out the window.’ ;)
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Thanks Iain, makes sense
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I had 'in-laws' that became 'out-laws' for a while... ;D
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Just discovered someone who married her stepmother's cousin. Did her stepmother become her cousin-in-law?!
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I think Charles was a divorcee as he was not married when Diana died.
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As your ex is no longer your wife, then your former family relationships also ‘disappear out the window.’ ;)
Some may do, but your children are still yours, are they not ? (if there are any, of course).
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As you would refer to your wife as your ex wife after you divorce, wouldn’t it follow that John would be your ex brother in law, and Gillian your ex niece? :)
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I think it depends on your family dynamics .
My uncle was still my uncle, (and I niece to him), and I still refer to him this way ( he died a couple of years ago) even though he and his wife divorced ( my bio Aunt, my parent's sibling). He will always be my uncle,and not an ex uncle.
My parents referred to him as their brother in law too even after my aunt split up with him. They kept in close touch as he was a loved part of our family. They were married for years and years , but sadly broke up after about 30 odd years of marriage .
I think of him as very much my uncle, and not an ex uncle. He is my uncle, and father of my 1st cousins ,Why wouldn't he still be my uncle?
My grandmother ( and grandfather) loved him and treated him like a son, and this didn't change when her daughter split up from him. He was still her son in law, none of my family including myself thought of him as an ex uncle, son in law, brother in-law.
It all depends on your own family dynamics , but my uncle will always be my uncle, and not an ex uncle.
It really depends on everyone's own circumstances.
Kind regards :)
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Family dynamics: My uncle was divorced from his wife when I was about 8, no children. She was a primary school teacher who had played with me delightfully, suggested reading and arithmetic books, so had influence on my education.
When I was about 26 I encountered her in the course of my work. I think she knew where I was working, I had her name and address in front of me, she said very diffidently "Do you know who I am?".
"Of course I do Aunty M."
Invitation to tea, friendship revived. Sadly she died of a stroke about eight years later.
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Depends upon how the Niece feels about the relationship.
My Wife’s Ex is still referred to by his Nephew and Nieces (by Marriage) as Uncle.
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Hi, Happy New Year to all.
My wife has a brother John( my brother in law?).
John has a daughter Gillian (my niece?)
If my wife and I divorce, is Gillian still my niece?
Thanks
I would say its down to how you got/get on with your ex - niece in law - on a one to one niece/uncle in law base and John's family as a person (not just you as John's sisters ex husband)
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ok, thanks everyone for your input. All sensible comments.
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On the same vein, I have a family member who was in a similar situation to the then Prince Charles.
Was he a widower or a divorcee when before he marries Camilla ?
Prince Charles was a divorcee, as Diana was still alive at the time of the divorce. If she had been dead, there would have been no reason for a divorce.
The ex-partner's state of health has no bearing on the remaining partner.
Regards
Chas
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I had an uncle John (Dads brother in Yorkshire) his wife, my in law aunt Emily who was sister in law to my mother, ( so Emily and mum were wives of two brothers) My mother came to Yorkshire as a maid about 17 years old 1925 from a mining village in Derbyshire, so had no family here in Yorkshire and my aunt Emily came from another part of Yorkshire as a maid also with no relatives here.. Over the years Emily and mum became like true sisters, mum used to visit Emily's family and Emily visited Mums family in Derbyshire who became friends with mums brothers and sisters and visa-versa mum got friendly with Emily's brothers and sisters or both accepted as another sibling to each others families.
Therefore it about people how they get on with each other -not always family connections..
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As your ex is no longer your wife, then your former family relationships also ‘disappear out the window.’ ;)
Some may do, but your children are still yours, are they not ? (if there are any, of course).
Lol..., exception to the 'rule.' Interesting. ;)