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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: zoot999 on Wednesday 27 December 23 20:01 GMT (UK)
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Good day,
I have been researching and some of my family emigrated from Scotland to Australia in the 1950s.
I’m trying to find any information on my Great Uncle Robert Stirling Bryden, born on 26/02/1898 in Coatbridge to William Bryden and Margaret Agar and died on 1/08/1963 in Geelong west, Victoria, Australia.
Robert arrived in Fremantle in 1952 and we believe lived most of his life in the Geelong area. He was a chef for the athletes in the 1956 Australian summer Olympics.
What we would like to know is the details of his death, if he ever married and whether he had a family. Any other information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Most of that information would be on his death certificate
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/658c8416b155e124ea23159f/results?q=efamily
$22 Aus. Instant download
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Geelong Western Public Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164155492/robert-stirling-bryden
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Robert-S-Bryden/8188244
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I can see him in the electoral rolls.
No other Byden names at the same address that I can see.
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Thank you all
He must have remained a Bachelor then…. Also in find a grave for the cemetery that Robert is buried in there are no further burials with the surname Bryden.
So I’m assuming he was just a “ one man band”
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I find it of interest that you can see on the VIC BDM index that whoever provided the info for the death cert knew the names of his parents. (Unless he was ill and thought to fill out the forms himself.)
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Hmmm interesting,
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Also of possible interest there is another of the surname on the Electoral roll in 1963.
BRYDEN Harry Greenhill.
36 Bellbird Ave Norlane. A driver.
On a map of the area, note that street is very close indeed to the address of Robert Stirling BRYDEN,-- 79 Rose Avee Norlane,
Do you know of Harry at all .?
He died in 2012.
Death notice.
https://www.mytributes.com.au/notice/death-notices/harry-greenhill-bryden/4136504/
(Please do not mention names of any people still living :D)
Sue
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Hi Sue,
The name Harry Or Greenhill doesn’t feature in my family…
The name Agar, Murray and Hill are his parents and Grandparents
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Ah well.. Just a coincidence then. ;D
Sue
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Robert arrived in Fremantle in 1952
Bryden, Robert Stirling born 1898 - arrived Melbourne per "OTRANTO" on 21 August 1952
He gave his address as Peace Street, Boxhill (South) Melbourne.
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He was aged in his 50s when he arrived in Australia. Do you know if there had been a marriage in Scotland?
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Robert did have family in Victoria they are his nieces from his sister Mary BRYDEN who married William WATT.
They emigrated with their husbands and children at various times from the late 1940's.
Margaret Bryden WATT m. Hugh MCCARTNEY in Scotland.
Margaret Bryden Watt MCCARTNEY d. 27 Jul 1992 age 84yrs.
Parents: William WATT and Mary BRYDEN.
Hugh MCCARTNEY d. 12 Oct 1966 age 66yrs.
Parents: Hugh MCCARTNEY and Diana SUTHERLAND
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history
They are buried at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Victoria.
https://smct.org.au/deceased-search
Mary Bryden WATT m. Archibald James TORRANCE in Scotland.
Mary Bryden TORRANCE d. 9 Jun 1969 age 51yrs.
Parents: William WATT and Mary BRYDEN.
Archibald James TORRANCE b. 23 Oct 1918 d. 8 Dec 1998 age 80yrs.
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history
They are buried at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Victoria.
https://smct.org.au/deceased-search
Jane Harrison WATT m. John McCULLOCH in Scotland.
Jane Harrison MCCULLOCH d. 10 Feb 1991 age 76yrs.
Parents: William WATT and Mary BRYDEN.
John MCCULLOCH d. 24 Jun 1972
Parents: Alexander MCCULLOCH and Jessie CAMERON.
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history
They are buried at Geelong Western Public Cemetery.
https://gct.net.au/
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Robert arrived in Fremantle in 1952
Bryden, Robert Stirling born 1898 - arrived Melbourne per "OTRANTO" on 21 August 1952
He gave his address as Peace Street, Boxhill (South) Melbourne.
This was the the address of Margaret Bryden (WATT) and Hugh MCCARTNEY.
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Aunt Meg was his neice, Meg, Jean and Mary and their families went over to Australia in the late 50s. Maybe Robert was a lodger in between moving homes…
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He was aged in his 50s when he arrived in Australia. Do you know if there had been a marriage in Scotland?
Hi Jenna, no marriage in Scotland.
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Aunt Meg was his neice, Meg, Jean and Mary and their families went over to Australia in the late 50s.
No, they didn't. They arrived 1949, 1950 and 1956.
Margaret, Hugh MCCARTNEY and family arrived 10 Mar 1949.
Departed UK: 8 Feb 1949
Ship Name: Empire Brent
Mary, Archibald TORRANCE and family arrived 12 Aug 1950.
Departed UK: 12 Jul 1950
Ship Name: Cheshire
Jane, John McCULLOCH and family arrived 20 Apr 1956.
Departed UK: 28 Mar 1956
Ship Name: Orcades
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Thanks for that,…
We were on the understanding they all went out in the late 50s
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The original passenger lists are freely available online at the NAA:
MCCARTNEY family:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=9245068&S=1
TORRANCE family:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30133031&S=7
MCCULLOCH family:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30139714&S=27
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As sideline of interest.
Robert BRYDEN was still at the Peace Street address in 1954.
It was in May of that year that construction of the 150 acre Olympic Village commenced in Heidelberg.
It would be located 18 or 20 kilometers north of Robert's home.
Perhaps this proximity and his cooking experience and skill was the reason for his employment as a cook for the athletes in 1956.
Sue