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Title: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: tom mix on Wednesday 27 December 23 07:25 GMT (UK)
With all the past help, here and on other sites, I am about to say, "I give up."
A summary and the rest is here but I am computer BASIC (sorry)
. Please find.

Married to James Thomas Cahill. Baby Helen (Ellen) born 1888. And Sarah Ellen disappears.
James & Ellen reappear in 1901 Census but no sign off Sarah Ellen.
The wife and mother.
Don't want to waste people's time. Check previous inputs, but where is she ?
Not wanting to discourage you, but had an investigator employed who gave good return but no Whereabouts o Sarah Ellen Cahill b. 1870.

I live in hope but please check previous posts so noone wastes time.

Alan
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 December 23 11:25 GMT (UK)
Looks to me that they split up.
James remarried 1902 as a Widower, 1891 he may have been at Sea.


Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 27 December 23 11:45 GMT (UK)
Marriages Jun 1887   
Cahill    James Thomas        Liverpool    8b   343
 
Williams    Sarah Ellen

CAHILL, ELLEN       Mother WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 343

I wonder if this is the 1901 census you refer to, you said that James was a rigger of ships in your earlier post, if so his wife is now Margaret?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9K2-M7Y

If the above is correct was Sarah’s maiden name listed on her death registration?

WILLIAMS, SARAH  ELLEN     Mother DAVIES 
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 498

Colin
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 December 23 11:49 GMT (UK)
Margaret was a Widow Fitzgerald( from memory), nee Ashton
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: tom mix on Wednesday 27 December 23 19:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks to everyone for your interest.

To ColC, I can find no record of Sarah's death. That is the brickwall, combined with the whole family not appearing in the 1891 Census.

Our family folk lore story goes like this: In about 1895, Sarah sends her young daughter Ellen to the corner shop for milk. When Ellen returns, Sarah has disappeared. Fact or fiction? I don't know.
The disappearance could be the result of a bad marriage situation, mental issues or other triggers.

I continue to look for a solution.

Alan
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 27 December 23 23:19 GMT (UK)
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Our family folk lore story goes like this: In about 1895, Sarah sends her young daughter Ellen to the corner shop for milk. When Ellen returns, Sarah has disappeared. Fact or fiction? I don't know.

After 7 years Sarah could be presumed dead and James would be free to marry again. It ties in with his remarriage in 1902.
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: tom mix on Wednesday 27 December 23 23:48 GMT (UK)
Agree ShaunJ. Is this what is called the Benjamin Law?
Would still want to know what happened to Sarah.
Alan
Title: Re: Sarah Ellen Cahill
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 December 23 12:20 GMT (UK)
She may be living with someone else as was often the case.