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Title: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: Peety on Thursday 21 December 23 14:55 GMT (UK)
My wife’s 4 x great grandfather, James Wheat 1820-1882 was listed as beer house keeper in the 1871 census living at Steam Boat Tavern, Humber Street, St Mary’s, Hull, East Riding. Does anyone know if a picture exists of the Tavern and any  information  about the tavern gratefully received?
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 21 December 23 14:59 GMT (UK)
This is the building https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5452195
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: Peety on Thursday 21 December 23 19:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much Shaun
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: tigtag on Tuesday 10 December 24 21:17 GMT (UK)
This is the building now.

My GG Grandfather was proprietor in 1881.

It was never demolished in the end (as per the article above)
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 December 24 23:43 GMT (UK)
Some licence transfers (from various editions of the Hull Packet and Hull Daily Mail:

Mar 1870 - Thomas LUNN to James WHEAT

Jun 1871 - James WHEAT to Joseph BULMER

June 1880 - Herbert PINDER to Thomas KNOWLER

Dec 1880 - Herbert PINDER to John Edward CANTRELL

April 1881 - John E CANTRAL to John SHAW

Sept 1881 - George SHAW to John PETTINGER

Jun 1882 - James PETTINGER to Albert BARSTROM

Jun 1886 - Edward NEYLON to George NORMAN

June 1887 - Robert RAWSON to Henry Taylor HOUFE

Sept 1894 - Henry Taylor HOUFE to James BEADLEY

July 1900 - James BEADLEY to William MACHIN

April 1904 - W. MACHIN to A. WILLIAMSON
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 11 December 24 02:24 GMT (UK)
Also, of possible interest:

"LOCAL COMPENSATION
The owners of several public-houses (the licences of which will be extinguished on the ground of redundancy) and the Hull Compensation Authority have agreed to the following terms of compensation:-

...                                       Amount      Agreed
                                          Claimed       Upon
Steamboat Tavern            £765           £650
..."

Wednesday,  Aug. 7, 1907
Publication: Hull Daily Mail
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 11 December 24 02:48 GMT (UK)
Not the history of the Tavern itself, however there a few articles that mention Thomas LUNN of 10 Humber St had in his possession a document supposedly dating to 1592 describing the warrant for and execution of a Stephen WILLISON who stole one shilling and threepence.

eg: Friday,  May 12, 1865
Publication: Hull Packet

I note also that Thomas LUNN (born c1812, master mariner) is at 10 Humber St in 1861 with his wife Elizabeth and children. The census does not indicate that the residence is a public house at this time.
RG9/3587/30 pg18
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: tigtag on Wednesday 11 December 24 10:20 GMT (UK)
Some licence transfers (from various editions of the Hull Packet and Hull Daily Mail:

Mar 1870 - Thomas LUNN to James WHEAT

Jun 1871 - James WHEAT to Joseph BULMER

June 1880 - Herbert PINDER to Thomas KNOWLER

Dec 1880 - Herbert PINDER to John Edward CANTRELL

April 1881 - John E CANTRAL to John SHAW

Sept 1881 - George SHAW to John PETTINGER

Jun 1882 - James PETTINGER to Albert BARSTROM

Jun 1886 - Edward NEYLON to George NORMAN

June 1887 - Robert RAWSON to Henry Taylor HOUFE

Sept 1894 - Henry Taylor HOUFE to James BEADLEY

July 1900 - James BEADLEY to William MACHIN

April 1904 - W. MACHIN to A. WILLIAMSON

This is really interesting thank you, it seems my ancestor (George Shaw) was only at the tavern for a short time.
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 12 December 24 08:12 GMT (UK)
I was surprised how often the licence changed hands.  :)
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Post by: AlanBoyd on Thursday 12 December 24 09:08 GMT (UK)
The 1870 transfer Lunn to Wheat refers to the Museum Tavern, Humber Street.

Perhaps an earlier name of the establishment?
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: tigtag on Thursday 12 December 24 15:48 GMT (UK)
Ironically the last venue there before the refurbishment of Humber Street and the Fruit Market area was The Museum of Club Culture.

There are lots of other pictures of Humber Street, of which No 10 appears on numerous here:

https://www.geograph.org.uk/stuff/list.php?title=Humber+Street%2C+Kingston+upon+Hull&gridref=TA0928
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: BushInn1746 on Friday 27 December 24 19:29 GMT (UK)
Added:

Just noticed it is WHEAT you are after.

An additional poster is after George SHAW

I'll leave information and advert as it might be useful for someone else searching.
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Hull Daily Mail 17 September 1894

Extract from the Transfers

56, Mytongate, from William Wheatley to Walter Wheatley ;

10, Humber-street (Steam Boat Tavern), from Henry Taylor House to James Beadley;

Hull Daily Mail, 19th February 1895

WM. WHEATLEY & SONS.

55 and 56, MYTONGATE,

HULL.

We beg to call the attention of the Public generally — more especially Invalids — to the fact that we are now in a position to deliver in splendid condition to all parts of the Town and Country.

GUINNESS'S
NOURISHING
INVALID
STOUT.

Special care has been given to the bottling of this Stout to ensure its success, the introduction of which has been entrusted to us.

Strongly prescribed by the Faculty for Invalids and others requiring a refreshing Tonic, and already used in Hospitals throughout the country.

WM. WHEATLEY & SONS,

55 and 56, MYTONGATE,

HULL.
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: BushInn1746 on Friday 27 December 24 19:59 GMT (UK)
Some licence transfers (from various editions of the Hull Packet and Hull Daily Mail:

Mar 1870 - Thomas LUNN to James WHEAT

Jun 1871 - James WHEAT to Joseph BULMER

June 1880 - Herbert PINDER to Thomas KNOWLER

Dec 1880 - Herbert PINDER to John Edward CANTRELL

April 1881 - John E CANTRAL to John SHAW

Sept 1881 - George SHAW to John PETTINGER

Jun 1882 - James PETTINGER to Albert BARSTROM

Jun 1886 - Edward NEYLON to George NORMAN

June 1887 - Robert RAWSON to Henry Taylor HOUFE

Sept 1894 - Henry Taylor HOUFE to James BEADLEY

July 1900 - James BEADLEY to William MACHIN

April 1904 - W. MACHIN to A. WILLIAMSON

This is really interesting thank you, it seems my ancestor (George Shaw) was only at the tavern for a short time.

Extracts from:-
Transfer of Licences

Hull Packet, 23rd June 1871

Brunswick Tavern, from William Read to George Shaw ;
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Hull Packet, 16th March 1883

Star Inn, 19, Worship-street, from George Shaw to George Linskill ;
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Hull Packet, 25th September 1885

Mr A. Rollit for an extension to the East Riding Hotel, beer-house, Cannon-street, on behalf of George Shaw. He said the application was to be allowed to take in an extra adjoining house, and it was not for the purpose of drinking that the extension was proposed, but for domestic purposes. There was no view of extending the dramshop accomodation.

Hull Then and Now ...

"This view looks down St. Paul’s Street towards the junction with Cannon Street."
http://museumshull.blogspot.com/2014/12/st-pauls-street-c1886.html

The picture enlarges and the current East Riding Hotel is visible.
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Hull Daily Mail, 5th November 1888

 ; corner of Cannon and St. Paul streets from George Shaw to Henry Shaw ;
Title: Re: Steam Boat Tavern Hull
Post by: BushInn1746 on Friday 27 December 24 21:06 GMT (UK)
Probably not your George Shaw

Hull Daily Mail, 8th June 1896

Justice to be done to the history of Grimsby, the Rev George Shaw, a native of the town has nearly completed for Messrs William Andrews and Co., an attractive volume, bearing the title of "Old Grimsby."