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Title: In the Dog House
Post by: seamoon24 on Wednesday 20 December 23 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone
I'm researching my family in particular the Kitchingman branch and I've come across a Joseph Kitchingman baptised at St Peter's church in Birstall West Yorkshire. He was the son of Thomas and Sarah Wilson married in the same church on 12 Feb 1782. Thomas was born in 1761 in Mirfield. The baptism record shows the place they lived as "Dog House" (see attached) I've tried looking at old OS maps and I've been in touch with the Bagshaw Museum in Birstall but no one has heard of it. Can anyone help.
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 December 23 13:11 GMT (UK)
Spotted this item in the Leeds Intelligencer, 13 Jun 1838 - but doesn't specify location of farm
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 December 23 13:19 GMT (UK)
There's Mathew Tomlinson, age 75 at "Doghouse. Alverthorpe with Thornes (?)" - 2 households - on the '41 Census..
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 December 23 13:22 GMT (UK)
The Tomlinsons seem to have been at Doghouse Farm Lupset which is near Wakefield

https://www.wakefieldhistoricalsociety.org.uk/christmas-day-at-doghouse-farm-lupset/

Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 December 23 15:35 GMT (UK)
JenB,
Many thanks - great descriptions of Xmas Day.

Fromaty/Frumenty always reminds me of Hardy's "Mayor of Casterbridge" where Henchard's ruin is caused by drinking "furmity" laced with rum.

I had checked out Alverthope and chasing Lupset takes me to within spitting distance of Alvethorpe.
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 December 23 17:50 GMT (UK)
Quote from: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 December 23 13:19 GMT (UK)
There's Mathew Tomlinson, age 75 at "Doghouse. Alverthorpe with Thornes (?)" - 2 households - on the '41 Census..

Here's the Alverthorpe with Thornes 'Doghouse' https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16.3&lat=53.66702&lon=-1.53021&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

Whether its the one referred to in the original enquiry is another matter  :-\

Edit - see next posting for what likes like the correct Doghouse.
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 December 23 18:05 GMT (UK)
Looking at the Genuki page for Birstall, one of the constituent townships was Liversedge.

Which leads to this entry in the 'Place names of South-West Yorkshire':

NORRISTHORPE, Liversedge, is a name of modern creation, the hamlet being formerly called Doghouse.
https://huddersfield.exposed/book/3189#page/n226/mode/2up

Here is Norristhorpe https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.9&lat=53.70102&lon=-1.68724&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 21 December 23 06:56 GMT (UK)
is this him - not all trees are correct

https://gw.geneanet.org/susanjacques?n=kitchingman&oc=&p=joseph
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 21 December 23 07:34 GMT (UK)
This is interesting https://yorkshiredictionary.york.ac.uk/words/dog%20pits
Title: Re: In the Dog House
Post by: seamoon24 on Thursday 21 December 23 13:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the many replies - I think the local name of Norristhorpe, Liversedge sounds about right. Hope everyone has a Happy Christmas.