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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: nicdigby on Saturday 16 December 23 22:25 GMT (UK)
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Would be grateful for your help with this marriage record from the 1890s in Glasgow please.
I have done the rest of it but cannot decipher the maiden surname of the mother and need it to go back a generation. Can anyone decipher it please?
Father: Albert ZumBach, general merchant, and Amanda ZumBach, M. S [?].
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Looks like Behrmann to me
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Looks like Behrmann to me
Thank you, that makes sense with what I have already discovered in the records. Much appreicated.
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That's great! Can't find a marriage for them though - sorry…
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There is a birth the following year 1892 of an Albert Zum Bach mmn Hawen, so is the surname ZumBach or Bach
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Info only:
1901 census
Albert Lum Bach Head Married Male 34 1867 Coal exporter -
Angelica Bach Wife Married Female 30 1871 - -
Amanda Bach - Widow Female 65 1836 - -
Albert Bach Son Single Male 9 1892 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Louise Prem? Servant Single Female 20 1881 Serv general Germany
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Name Margaretha Franziska Angela Hawen
Gender weiblich (Female)
Birth Date 25 Aug 1872
Birth Place Trier, Rheinland Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office Trier-Stadt
Father
Franz Hawen
Mother
Margaretha Hawen
Certificate Number 415
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1500038160:61646
further addition
If you have access to anc* details of Albert Wilhelm Zum Bach
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/300084706:9156
Looks as though Albert Wilhelm Zumbach remarried in 1918 Hamburg, naming his father as Carl Albert Julius Zumbach and mother Johanna Amanda Behrmann
Angela remarries in 1920
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/60504/images/43774_332%5E5%5E%5E8751-00186?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=1321fb0a-5c81-48cd-9935-c2ecff8d770c&usePUB=true&_phsrc=jWn2842&_phstart=successSource&pId=1698983700
Albert Died 1931
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/908361325:60505?tid=&pid=&queryId=8f9c765b-7acb-47b4-a993-828b3bb21848&_phsrc=jWn2834&_phstart=successSource
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Info only
Name Johanna Amanda Zumbach
[Johanna Amanda Behrmann]
Death Age 80
Birth Date 28 Dez 1839 (28 Dec 1839)
Death Date 21 Mär 1920 (21 Mar 1920)
Death Place Hamburg, Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Civil Registration Office Hamburg 01
Certificate Number 579
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added, can anyone read German, does it name her parents
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/390406:60505?tid=&pid=&queryId=5cef8c87-8dd0-4272-96ec-7c8369835cc5&_phsrc=jWn2800&_phstart=successSource
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I am also looking at his mother's parents - see screenshot.
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Hence why I asked if anyone could read German. Possible father Hans Andreas Behrmann & Betty Louife / Krohne ??
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I am getting confused... :D
The text in some of nicdigby's posts has disappeared - at least on my computer.
The screenshot in #8 is Johanna's death certificate, right?
The parents' names shown there are, as ss says, Hans Andreas Behrmann & Betty Louise Krohn
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Nr 579
Hamburg am 22 März 1920
Vor dem unterzeichneten Standesbeamte erschien heute, der Persönlichkeit nach bekannt
der Diplom Ingenieur Michael Fopp
Wohnhaft in Hamburg Küsterstrasse 52
und zeigte an, dass die Witwe Johanna Amanda Zumbach geborene Behrmann
ohne Beruf
80 Jahre, 2 monate alt, lutherischer Religion
Wohnhaft im Hamburg, an der Alster 21
geboren zu Hamburg am 28 Dezember 1839
verheiratet gewesen mit dem Kaufmann Carl Albert Julius Zumbach
Tochter der hier verstorbenen Eheleute Privatmannes Hans Andreas Behrmann
und Betty Louise geborene Krohn.
Zu Hamburg in letztgenannter Wohnung
am ein und zwanzigsten März
des Jahres tausend neunhundert zwanzig
nachmittags um acht dreiviertel Uhr
verstorben sei, was der Anzeigende aus
eigener Wissenschaft bezeuge.
Vorgelesen und unterschrieben Michael Fopp
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Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, personally known,
The graduate engineer Michael Fopp, resident in Hamburg Küsterstrasse 52
and reported that the widow Johanna Amanda Zumbach nee Behrmann,
no know proffession, died on the 21 Mär 1920.
she died at the age of 80 years and 3 months, at 8:45 pm, in her home, in Hamburg, an der Alster 21
lutherischer Religion
She was born in Hamburg on the 28 Dezember 1839
was married to the merchant Kaufmann Carl Albert Julius Zumbach
Daughter of the deceased couple, the privatmann Hans Andreas Behrmann and Betty Louise nee Krohn.
He reported the details of the death to the best of his knowledge.
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Thank you