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Title: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: belindy on Tuesday 12 December 23 06:15 GMT (UK)
I wasnt sure what country to put this post in!

I have a Mary Catherine SMITH who(on her marriage certificate) stated that her parents were John SMITH (soldier) and Eliza O’Neill.
Marriage occurred 1890 in Auckland, New Zealand.
She also states that she was born in Perth, Australia (c1863) but on her death certificate it says England(although I know that death certificates are the least reliable of the certificates).
On Mary Catherine’s son’s military records it says she was born in New Zealand.

I have searched but Mary Catherine or Catherine Mary doesn’t appear.

I haven’t found any further mention of her parents.

Does anyone have any tips advice?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 December 23 06:25 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has this

birth Oct 21 1866
Baptism   Oct 31 1866 Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Name   Maria Catharina Smith
Gender   Female
Baptism Age   0
Baptism Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Residence Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Father   
Joanne Smith. (this is RC so has been latinised)
Mother   
Elizabeth Neil
FHL Film Number   1363647


That film number takes you to

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1363647

A visit to an LDS centre in your future
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: belindy on Tuesday 12 December 23 06:27 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: belindy on Tuesday 12 December 23 06:27 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has this

birth Oct 21 1866
Baptism   Oct 31 1866 Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Name   Maria Catharina Smith
Gender   Female
Baptism Age   0
Baptism Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Residence Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Father   
Joanne Smith. (this is RC so has been latinised)
Mother   
Elizabeth Neil
FHL Film Number   1363647


That film number takes you to

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A1363647

A visit to an LDS centre in your future

Ok now I just feel silly  ;D
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 12 December 23 06:33 GMT (UK)
Might be a brother?

But I cannot figure out how get to a year  >:(

Name   Michael Johannes Smith
Gender   Male
Baptism Age   0
Baptism Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Residence Place   Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Father   
Johanne Smith
Mother   
Elizabeth Smith
FHL Film Number   1363647

Added..it was. Aug 6 1865
But he might have died the same year
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 12 December 23 09:36 GMT (UK)
Too much of a coincidence???

1871 Channel Islands Census
John SMITH 58 Head Mar, Army Pensioner, born 1813 India
Eliza Smith 34 Wife born Carlow, Ireland
Mary A  8 (1863) Daug Carlow, Ireland
Mary E 4 (1867) Daug born Perth, Australia********
Kate NEELL 70, Mother in Law born Carlow

Might explain England connection?

Looking at the image the E may be a fancy C
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 12 December 23 09:52 GMT (UK)
Too much of a coincidence???

1871 Channel Islands Census
John SMITH 58 Head Mar, Army Pensioner, born 1813 India
Eliza Smith 34 Wife born Carlow, Ireland
Mary A  8 (1863) Daug Carlow, Ireland
Mary E 4 (1867) Daug born Perth, Australia********
Kate NEELL 70, Mother in Law born Carlow

Might explain England connection?

Baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6JSL-MKS8

SS
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 12 December 23 09:54 GMT (UK)
Good find SS :)
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 12 December 23 10:01 GMT (UK)
Image on anc* if you have a subscription

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/61039/images/04193_08_0080?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=5bf981f4-6e40-49a3-8436-956290435cb0&usePUB=true&_phsrc=jWn2493&_phstart=successSource&pId=1852916

SS
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: jorose on Tuesday 12 December 23 12:13 GMT (UK)
When she married she was the daughter of "the late John Smith" in the newspaper:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18910103.2.35.1?items_per_page=10&query=%22Mary+Catherine+Smith%22
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 14 December 23 06:18 GMT (UK)
Any comment on later replies Belindy?

Looks to me the Family was in Channel Islands in 1871 at least.

Did you have that?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Mary Catherine SMITH
Post by: belindy on Friday 15 December 23 05:31 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,
Many thanks for all the help!

I only had the marriage newspaper article so it was all new for me.

My first time dealing with the surname Smith lol.

Thank you again  :)