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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Monmouthshire => Topic started by: kenandjulie on Monday 11 December 23 15:40 GMT (UK)
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Can some one help? i have a small enigma, i believe my distant cousins in Australia have researched and entered the wrong George Williams on their tree. H e was my great uncle. They have him dying in 1876 but i am fairly confident that the correct George Williams died in 1896 , Blaenafon both men died tragically George 1896 died from severe injuries sustain whilst working at Big Pit, the Coronors report actually mentions his father George at being present at the time of the accident.
I have both death certs and the copy for George Williams who died 10th September 1876 states, occupation was Farm Servant cause of death on coronors report .. found dead killed by a kick of a horse. This happened in the Parish of Llanworth (very dicicult to read) Kilgeddin (which I think is a few miles from USK. i have found George Williams who died 1896 on the 1871 census and the 1881 census and 1891 census. 1871 census shows living with parents George and Mary Ann William, s (my great great grandparents)Abergavenny Road. Occupation haulier.1881 Census Living at Long Rank, Blaenafon. married to Sarah Ann (Wilkins) Williams, son Issac, George's occupation Miner, haulier. The 1891 census shows him to be living at Black House, Blaenafon.
For years the family appear to be living Abergavenny Road, and Upper Brickyard are of Blaenafon. i can't find any reference to the family living in the Usk area.
i am trying to prove that relatives in Australia have researched the wrong man.
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Just to confirm George Williams' age/YoB that died 10 Sep 1876 -
FindMyPast Burial (image/transcript)
Parish of Penrhos
George Williams, abode - Llanvair Kilgeddin, buried 20 Sep 1876, age 24
Added - there's a report in the Abergavenny Chronicle, 16 Sep but age not given.
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If you have the 1896 death cert, who was informant?
This looks a likely burial? What year was he born?
Index only no additional info
Parish or Chapel Blaenavon
in Welsh Blaenafon
Dedication St Peter
Burial Date 9 Jul 1896
Surname WILLIAMS
Forename(s) George
Residence Blaenavon
Age at death 43
Officiating Minister AJ Smith, Curate
Blaenavon Burials 1894-1897
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llanover
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/470285
Cas
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Revisiting my post I haven't expressed myself well. I am seeking confirmation that the burial I have posted is the George in question - in the absence of a year of birth in opening post.
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Accident not listed 1896..there is a George Williams 1908
https://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/Photo.htm
Added: They only listed if over 5 fatalities it states.
Cas
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Revisiting my post I haven't expressed myself well. I am seeking confirmation that the burial I have posted is the George in question - in the absence of a year of birth in opening post.
Confused..have read and cannot see where the OP has written the above text. Is it another thread?
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Ok I get it the words were for OP..senior moment
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Pontypool Free Press 10 July has a report of the Big Pit death - accident occurred 24 Jun 1896. The report states George Williams as father of the deceased.
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The 1896 Pontypool Press newspaper article refers to " ... widow and six children so suddenly bereaved" which ties in with the 1891 Census family at Black House..
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Hello Haines. thanks for you responses With regard to George Williams died 1976 Killed by a kick fom a horse, he was born in 1852 the same year as George Williams who died 1896.
i have tried searching for George Williams born 1852 died 1876 on the 1871 census with the help of another cousin but no joy at the moment. He was a servant on the farm when killed and would have been aged about 24 years old.
Every thing points to George Williams who died in 1896 as being my true relative. but i need to eliminate George Williams who died 1876.
Thanks for you help
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Thanks for confirming the years of birth of the 2 Georges.
This looks a possible baptism for "your" George who died 1896.
FindMyPast baptisms (image/transcript)
Parish of Blaenavon
18 Mar 1855, George and Mary, children of George and Mary Ann Williams, abode Blaenavon Llan ?, father's occpn. miner.
The George, died 1876, is difficult to track. No real clues in newspaper reports. His occpn is "waggoner" in the report. No widow/children mentioned so looking for a single man? No clues to parentage or where born.
Have you found "your" George in '61.
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Do you have "your" George's marriage cert? A George Williams married Dec Qtr, Abergavenny - on the same page is a Sarah Ann Wilkins. Some Monmouthshire marr. certs are on line but not this one.
"Your" George's 1st born appears to be Isaac George, 5 mths old on the '81 Census. The birth of an Isaac George Williams was registered Abergavenny, Dec Qtr 1880 - mother's maiden name Wilkins.
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Only just checked the 1871 Census - it has George Williams, age 19, haulier, born Clodock? Herefordshire.
The 1881 Census at Long Rank has "Blaenavon" as place of birth?
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Hello Haines. thanks for your time and help. The census does say the George who died in 1896 was born in Clodock but the other census' indicate he was born in Blaenafon. His mother was mary Ann (Powell) Williams was certainly born in Clodock.
i have checked the parish records for Clodock but have been unable to find a birth for George in 1852 at Clodock.. The George who died in 1876 still remains a mystery.
ypur help very much appreciated.
Thank you.
Ken