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Title: De bank
Post by: Bo halad on Saturday 09 December 23 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hi folks, im researching my family and i have found a few De bank family members , which is also spelt, debank, debanks,debanke,nebank,deebank etc on various census, but they are down as , horse dealers, basket makers, hawkers etc, i wondered if anyone had any history of de banks as gypsies ?
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 10 December 23 12:39 GMT (UK)
There's a surprising amount of info with regard to Gypsy families but I can't
see anything about the Debanks.
Can you give some first names & dates you're looking at ?
It may be a Debank has married into a known Gypsy family.
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 10 December 23 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat,
There is this..not sure about the Gypsy connection.


Julia Marritta Debank
[Julia Marritta Debanks]
Jun qtr 1881
Banbury RD
Volume 3a Page   1186


Carol
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: chempat on Sunday 10 December 23 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,

You could ask for this to be moved to the Travelling People group on the Special Interests board.

Title: Re: De bank
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 10 December 23 16:37 GMT (UK)
The one Carol put up refers to the marriage of Julia De Bank.
She was the illegitimate daughter of Ann who married a carpenter.
Julia lived with her grandmother who was an Innkeeper.
We really need the De Bank names.
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: chempat on Sunday 10 December 23 17:59 GMT (UK)
If one of your ancestors is Robert De Bank born around 1839 in Cromford, Derbyshire, he is in about 20 trees on Ancestry, so worth contacting the tree owners to discuss the matter.
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: Bo halad on Sunday 10 December 23 18:07 GMT (UK)
Yes robert de bank is one, i think he married a sarah groom or austin, i think his father was william whoni think married an eliza , although without looking i could be wrong
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 10 December 23 20:44 GMT (UK)
I have a connection to DeBank in Gloucestershire, never seen any gypsy connections though.
You may find this site of interest; http://www.sharons-tree.co.uk/debanks_in_the_cotswolds.htm
 
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: Bo halad on Sunday 10 December 23 21:03 GMT (UK)
Wow thats great thankyou
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 10 December 23 21:05 GMT (UK)
Not my site but it is informative
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: jim1 on Monday 11 December 23 11:16 GMT (UK)
Quote
Yes robert de bank is one
There's little to suggest he was a Gypsy although he did
have occupations often carried out by Gypsies.
There's no indication he was living that lifestyle.
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: Bo halad on Monday 11 December 23 11:35 GMT (UK)
Yes , i know a few people just sort of took on thst lifestyle but i havent gone bsck very far past him so i just tjought id ask the question here, but thankyou for everyones help its been very informative, on that de bank page it made me laugh as it says they were known for their black shiney curly hair which is exactly like my mum and uncle and grandad, i bet they all went grey early aswell, as thats a debank trait in our family but no baldness. Thsnkyou again
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: jim1 on Monday 11 December 23 12:07 GMT (UK)
If you decide to take a closer look at Robert you need to view the online trees with caution.
They show him marrying in 1857 but it's the wrong Robert De Bank.
His age is 10 years out & he has a different father's name.
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 11 December 23 14:15 GMT (UK)
Here is a useful link for travelling communities:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/travellers/

Carol
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:14 GMT (UK)
Robert Deabank and Sarah Deweson married Q3 1858 1848Manchester
MMn matches the three children they have later - William, Sarah Ellen and Mark

modified to correct year
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:18 GMT (UK)
Robert's father also called Mark, Sarah's was Henry. Image of marriage record on Ancestry
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Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:23 GMT (UK)
Could be father Mark in 1851
Piece number 2335, Folio 535, Page 3
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Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:25 GMT (UK)
Poss marriage

Mark Debank and Sarah Boden date 25 May 1828 Matlock, St Giles
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Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:28 GMT (UK)
Sarah Debank nee Boden in 1851, poss with M-I-L

Piece number 2150, Folio 138, Page 2
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:34 GMT (UK)
Mark Snr was mark Anthony, son of Mark Anthonyand Martha bapt Matlock 20 Mar 1806, transcript says birth year 1804

added
confusion Another baptism for M-A in Cromford 30 Sep 1804 same parents.
both Anglican churches

nother addition
name corrected

Anthony Debank married Martha Holmes 03 Nov 1788,  Bakewell, Derbyshire
so plenty of space for several children before M-A
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:44 GMT (UK)
Anthony baptism 20 Sep 1767 Wirksworth, Derbyshire s/o John, no mother's name recorded
Title: Re: De bank
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 11 December 23 15:49 GMT (UK)
John Daybank (sic) of Wirksworth married Ann Bornford on 12 May 1755 at Duffield (her parish)
If correct marriage, again could be several children before Anthony born,