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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: bermyboy on Saturday 25 November 23 08:26 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am struggling to get the gist of this Latin paragraph. I've attached a snapshot, and one of my transcription & translation. Corrections would be appreciated.
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[marginated]
Relax(atio) Iuris
Fin(is) p(ro) irrot(u)lam(ent)o - iiijd
Ad h(a)nc Cur(iam) venit Joh(ann)es filius Andree Riches al(ias) Poynto(a) & p(re)sens in Cur(ia) surs(um) redd(idit) remisit
Relax(avit) & p(ro) se hered(ibus) & assign(atis) suis [quietum] clamavit Galfr(id)o Poynt(a) & hered(ibus) suis in eius plena & pacifica
possessione existen(s) totu(m) Jus suu(m) tit(u)l(u)m clameu(m) interesse & demand(am) que h(ab)et seu h(ab)ere pot(er)it de [vel?]
in Om(n)ib(us) ill(is) mes(suagijs) terr(is) & ten(emen)t(is) nat(ivis) in Fram(m)ynhg(a)m & Yelv(er)ton q(ue) iid(e)m Andreas & Joh(ann)es [cont(ra)?] ceper(unt)
ex surs(um) reddic(i)one Joh(ann)is Sparrowe ut pat(et) in anno t(er)cio d(omi)ni Regis nu(n)c et qu(e) ijd(e)m A[n]dreas nup(er)
alien(avit) & surs(um) redd(idit) ad usu(m) d(i)c(t)i Joh(ann)is ut pat(et) in Cur(ia) hic tent(a) ante F(estu)m Nativit(atis) s(an)c(t)i Joh(ann)is Bapt(ist)e
anno regni Regis Henr(ici) Octavi nu(n)c Vicesimo Octavo
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Release of right
Charge for enrolment, 4 pence
To this court came John, son of Andrew Riches otherwise Poyntoa, and being present in the court he surrendered, remitted, released and, for himself, his heirs and assigns (quit)claimed to Geoffrey Poynta and his heirs, being in full and peaceful possession, all his right, title, claim, interest and demand that he held or could hold concerning or in all those messuages, lands and customary tenements in Framingham and Yelverton that the same Andrew and John had acquired from the surrender of John Sparrowe, as it appears, in the third year of the present lord king [1511-12], and which the same Andrew recently transferred and surrendered for the use of the said John, as it appears, at a court held here before the Feast of the Nativity of St John the Baptist in the twenty-eighth year of the reign of the present King Henry VIII [1536].
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As I understand it, this is a release of property from John Riches to Geoffrey Poynta (no relationship stated). The property was originally acquired by Andrew and John Riches from an earlier surrender by John Sparrowe, in 1521/22. Then in 1536/37 Andrew passed it to his son John, and John is now in court releasing it to Geoffrey. (I believe quietum has to be 'understood' before clamavit = quitclaimed, otherwise it makes no sense.)
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Dear Bookbox,
thanks very much for the detailed transcription and translation. I've got a bit more work to do on my Latin ::).
For a bit of context, Geoffrey is the brother of John (by further entries in court, and by Geoffrey's will of 1561), and John is recorded in a court of 1550 as having died in the final battle of Kett's Rebellion of the previous year, with his lands transferring to his eldest son.
Very much appreciated.
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You're welcome.
Looking again at line 5, I think you were correct with the date you originally had for the first transfer of the property. It is ... in anno t(er)cio d(omi)ni Regis = in the third year of the lord king (not the thirteenth year of the king, as I originally read it). So 1511/12, not 1521/22, and I have corrected it above. My apologies.
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Thanks for the follow-up Bookbox.
I'll try to get a copy of the court of 1536, which will hopefully confirm the date of the earlier surrender. I notice a gap in these manor records from 1512-1522, so might get lucky, might not.