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Title: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 12:43 GMT (UK)
Looking for 3 Great grand Uncles

William Clark born 1859 High Church, Glasgow
Alexander Clark born 1870 High Church, Glasgow
Robert Clark born 1879 Camlachie, Glasgow

Parents were : Robert Clark 1834-1889 Mary McCormick 1834-1884
Siblings: Elizabeth Auld Clark 1860-1927
              Jane Clark 1862 - ?
              John Clark 1865-1937
              Robert Clark 1867-1869
              Mary Ann Anderson Clark 1873-1958

The 3 brother disappear after 1881 and unable to find marriages or deaths.
Alexander possibly was a solder in 1890’s??

Any help would be very much appreciated! Many thanks in advance
Kim
             
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: california dreamin on Wednesday 22 November 23 12:59 GMT (UK)
It might be worth looking for all in any military records.  I think during the time you cannot locate these men we were fighting the Boar War. 

Some of these soldiers did stay behind in South Africa to live. (I have one in my family that did just that).

CD
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:05 GMT (UK)
There is a William Clark born 1860 Glasgow on the English 1911 - have you already ruled him out?
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:17 GMT (UK)
There is a William Clark born 1860 Glasgow on the English 1911 - have you already ruled him out?

No CaroleW I haven’t seen that, I will have a look into this Thank you
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:18 GMT (UK)
If Robert was born 1879 he should be on the 1891 as he was only 12yrs old.  Was he with relatives as both parents deceased?  If he's not - have you looked for a death for him?
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:24 GMT (UK)
The 1891 has an entry for Robert & he's living with brothers Alexander & John & sister Margaret?

Your post says you can't find them after 1881?
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:32 GMT (UK)
Scottish 1901 has an Alexander Clark aged 31 b Glasgow living in Stirling as a boarder
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 13:59 GMT (UK)
The 1891 has an entry for Robert & he's living with brothers Alexander & John & sister Margaret?

Your post says you can't find them after 1881?


Just paid to see this record it’s wrong family  :-\
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 14:21 GMT (UK)
It might be worth looking for all in any military records.  I think during the time you cannot locate these men we were fighting the Boar War. 

Some of these soldiers did stay behind in South Africa to live. (I have one in my family that did just that).


 

This is has been my thinking….i do have a military record for an Alexander but can’t prove it’s him as the records are quite vague with facts, it feels right, he leaves the military 1905 after 12 years served in East Indies and then nothing  :'(

Thanks cd it’s so frustrating and costly!!

Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 22 November 23 14:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks cd it’s so frustrating and costly!!
Just be glad it's only £1.50 lost.

Imagine how much more costly it would be if you had to pay for certificates from England, or Australia, to name but two :)
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 15:03 GMT (UK)
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Thanks cd it’s so frustrating and costly!!
Just be glad it's only £1.50 lost.

Imagine how much more costly it would be if you had to pay for certificates from England, or Australia, to name but two :)
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I know! ! That’s for sure ! 
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 22 November 23 15:14 GMT (UK)
Some of the transcripts are on ancestry
Have you checked that the boys weren't living with McCormick relatives in 1891

I notice the family had Michael McCormick a labourer age 66 living with them in 1871

Was he  Mary's father ? (2nd son named after him ) .
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Wednesday 22 November 23 15:36 GMT (UK)
Some of the transcripts are on ancestry
Have you checked that the boys weren't living with McCormick relatives in 1891

I notice the family had Michael McCormick a labourer age 66 living with them in 1871

Was he  Mary's father ? (2nd son named after him ) .

He was Mary’s father he moves around to different daughters lol he’s with the Potts in 1881 will check 1891 again many thanks
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 22 November 23 22:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Kim

Son William born 1859, looks to have married Elizabeth McKinnon in 1882 in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton (ref 501 / 53).

I think this is them in 1891:

William Clark 32 Rivetter b. Glasgow
Elizabeth Clark 32 b. Glasgow
Ellen Clark 7 b. Old Kilpatrick, Yoker
Robert Clark 7 b. Old Kilpatrick
Alexander Clark 3 b. Glasgow
William Clark 5 months b. Glasgow

Address 9 Lyon Street , Glasgow/Milton

By 1911, the family look to be in Ireland. Address showing as 118 East Bread Street (Pottinger (part of), Down. See www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002198812/

From the family's entry in 1911 and going by the birth places and ages for the younger children, the Clarks look to have been in Ireland pre 1901.

Monica
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 22 November 23 22:41 GMT (UK)
The family are not easy to find so far in 1901!

This looks to be the youngest's birth, Isabella, in 1902 on the Irish registers. If you haven't viewed images on there before, just add your name, tick the box for agree and the captcha box https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01925/1745797.pdf

Also, daughter Ruth's entry in 1896 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02153/1816775.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Thursday 23 November 23 02:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Kim

Son William born 1859, looks to have married Elizabeth McKinnon in 1882 in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton (ref 501 / 53).

I think this is them in 1891:

William Clark 32 Rivetter b. Glasgow
Elizabeth Clark 32 b. Glasgow
Ellen Clark 7 b. Old Kilpatrick, Yoker
Robert Clark 7 b. Old Kilpatrick
Alexander Clark 3 b. Glasgow
William Clark 5 months b. Glasgow

Address 9 Lyon Street , Glasgow/Milton

By 1911, the family look to be in Ireland. Address showing as 118 East Bread Street (Pottinger (part of), Down. See www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002198812/

From the family's entry in 1911 and going by the birth places and ages for the younger children, the Clarks look to have been in Ireland pre 1901.

Monica

The family are not easy to find so far in 1901!

This looks to be the youngest's birth, Isabella, in 1902 on the Irish registers. If you haven't viewed images on there before, just add your name, tick the box for agree and the captcha box https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01925/1745797.pdf

Also, daughter Ruth's entry in 1896 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02153/1816775.pdf

Monica

Monica ! This is amazing the marriage spot on! how you found that is beyond me, and looking in Ireland it hadn’t crossed my mind even though his father was born in Ireland
Truly amazing thank you 🙏
Regards Kim
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Thursday 23 November 23 12:58 GMT (UK)
The family are not easy to find so far in 1901!

Monica

Looks like 1901 they are transcribed as surname Clork  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 23 November 23 14:33 GMT (UK)
Certainly them  ;) Well done on finding them!

Monica

Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Thursday 23 November 23 15:53 GMT (UK)
Certainly them  ;) Well done on finding them!
 :-\
Monica



All thanks to you Monica 🙏 for pointing in right direction, now working through William and Elizabeth’s family bmd’s :)

Just need to find the 2 other brothers lol Alexander and Robert  ;D
Kim
Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 November 23 16:20 GMT (UK)

Looks like 1901 they are transcribed as surname Clork  ;D


Definitely looks like Clark. You should 'Report any error in transcription'
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/feedback/1901/Down/Victoria/Otter_Street/1218917/

House 21 in Otter Street (Victoria, Down)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Otter_Street/1218917/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000718132/


Title: Re: Looking for 3 brothers William, Alexander & Robert Clark all born Glasgow
Post by: berleyclay on Thursday 23 November 23 16:38 GMT (UK)


Definitely looks like Clark. You should 'Report any error in transcription'
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/feedback/1901/Down/Victoria/Otter_Street/1218917/



I have done Kiltaglassan

Regards