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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: nicholastolson on Thursday 16 November 23 02:12 GMT (UK)
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I have a marriage at St Cuthbert's, Ackworth, Yorkshire, on 7 (or 9) November 1729. The entry on the Ancestry image appears to read "Abraham Firth & Eliz: Gibson de Close with licence".
I have two questions. First, why were some marriages with licence and others with banns? Second, what could "de Close" possibly mean, if indeed I've read it correctly? (I even considered "Gibson de Close" as a surname, without any luck.)
Many thanks for any suggestions.
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The FindMyPast image is clearly the 7th
And it is Abraham who is “of” Close.
Images are also available at a Family History Library (LDS) or affiliate
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/132872?availability=Family%20History%20Library
An index on FindMyPast says Eliz is of Pontefract, Eliz 25, Abraham 28. but image has to be ordered from the Borthwick institute.
There are other threads re licences & banns
Eg
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=367245.0
Edited to add old map.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345055
It seems likely to me that “Close” is where Abraham lived in or near Ackworth. Not having any luck finding it though.
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Information here
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales
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On the south side of Pontefract is Town’s Close
Over to the south west is Penny Lane Closes
South east and closer to Ackworth is Furlong Closes ;D
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In our family marriage by licence meant the bride was well advanced in pregnancy and couldn't wait for banns to be read, sometimes they didn't make it and the wedding was after the birth.
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Thanks, everyone.
I'm still not sure where "Close" is, but if I go through the Ackworth records and see who else was living there, it might help.
Thanks again.
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Back in centuries gone the parish responsibilities was the equivalent of local council collecting tax/rates and some gov benefits today - like relief payments for the poor of the parish by the overseer of the parish - even if the recipients lived in another parish or town/city many miles away from their own parish of birth but were they lived or residence had no responsibility for their welfare. The parish of birth looked after its own parishioners
Therefor as below
There were a few reason to be married by licence
One of the couple was under 21 and needed perents permission
another reason was the couple could not wait the 3 weeks of banns to be read out in the parish
One of the coulpe was fram another parish or place, town/city etc.
to mention a few reasons to need a marriage by licence
https://www.york.ac.uk/media/borthwick/documents/5marriagebonds.pdf
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales
https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14199#:~:text=Re%3A%20Difference%20between%20marriage%20by%20license%20and%20marriage%20by%20banns%3F,-Post%20by%20AnneEast&text=Banns%20are%20more%20usual%20if,parish%20of%20either%20of%20them.