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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: nicholastolson on Monday 13 November 23 04:53 GMT (UK)
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I've found some baptisms, and also a marriage, at All Saints, Wakefield in the first decade of the eighteenth century, where the parties are said to be from "Woodside". I take it this isn't the parish of that name in the Adel/Guiseley/Horsforth area, but somewhere closer to Wakefield.
Looking online, I've found a few Woodside Farms and Woodside Cottages in the general area of Wakefield, but those could well be modern names given by anyone with a couple of trees on his property. Can anyone help with some local knowledge? Other names in this family are associated with Badsworth and Thorpe Audlin, to the east of Wakefield, so I'm hoping that "Woodside" in the Wakefield church records is off in this direction.
Many thanks.
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So your records are dated 1700 to 1710 or thereabouts.
Look at old maps, certainly plenty around online from mid 1800s, which will ascertain the history of Woodside farm at least
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Yes that's right: by "the first decade of the eighteenth century" I do mean the period between 1700 and 1710. So thanks for your suggestion about maps but the ones you suggest, "from mid 1800s", are about 150 years after my period. Do you know where I can find maps that cover the dates I'm concerned with?
I should perhaps have mentioned that the baptismal records show other names of families resident in Woodside so it's unlikely to have been a single farm, more likely a neighbourhood, perhaps even a village.
Thanks anyway.
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Have you contacted West Yorkshire Joint Services - they have a Wakefield District Office?
https://www.wyjs.org.uk/archive-service/
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Thanks, Bumble. I'll give them a try.
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I've just tried searching for Woodside Wakefield and found the following page, which suggests that Woodside was an earlier name for Outwood, but I haven't found anything else to corroborate this.
https://outwoodcommunityvideo.co.uk/the-story-of-outwood-hall.html
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Thanks, Arthur. There's a road called Woodside in Wrenthorpe which is next to Outwood and supports your hypothesis.
My problem is that there are other Woodsides in the area and I'm still asking myself: when the records of All Saints, Wakefield say that a person in the very early 1700s is from "Woodside", which one do they mean? (I agree that Outwood is a contender.)
Thanks again.
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Woodside is /was in Outwood Wrenthorpe Wakefield
In the oldmap link below
Where it say's in big capital leters R L E Y- above between the L and E you'll see Stanley in black letter and above that in faint same size letters Wrenthorpe above that Outwood Hall (above the P in WrenthorPe) and (Left side of the W in Wrenthorpe you see Trough Well Lane were Woodside is known to day by locals but not on the map )
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345004
https://www.google.com/search?q=+Woodside+outwood&sca_esv=582142208&tbm=bks&ei=huhSZb_SKY-qhbIPv_CP2As&ved=0ahUKEwi_rcSkxcKCAxUPVUEAHT_4A7sQ4dUDCAk&oq=+Woodside+outwood&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LWJvb2tzIhEgV29vZHNpZGUgb3V0d29vZEjrC1AAWABwAHgAkAEAmAF_oAF_qgEDMC4xuAEMyAEA-AEBiAYB&sclient=gws-wiz-books
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Outwood,+Wakefield/@53.7076205,-1.5137279,14.75z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4879670c909ce993:0xa06d96cc70e0679a!8m2!3d53.7126036!4d-1.5025099!16zL20vMGNyM2h6?entry=ttu
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Marvellous, dobfarm, many thanks.
The map is again from the mid-1850s but you're suggesting that Woodside would have had the same meaning 150 years earlier?
PS: I was born in 1946 in Manygates Nursing Home in Sandal (since demolished) but first lived in Carr Gate which the map shows is very close to Woodside where my ancestors probably lived 250 years earlier. I moved away from Yorkshire at a young age :-( and now live in the US so this is quite a discovery for me.
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High Nich.
Most online maps only go back to 1850 and any old maps 1700's would be in the West Yorkshire archive or the National archives at Kew London
Near Manygates on the Barnsley road out for Wakefield is an acute Y junction called ( not named on any maps) ' busy corner ' by locals and I think there will be some history of the corner or folk law.
Though I do have a car, I use my OAP free bus pass for obvious reason of fuel cost. though I come from Hudderfield, I catch the Huddersfield to Wakefield bus over the years since I retired, I have been on many bus routes out of Wakefield to various places. Going home to Huddersfield from Wakefield, I used to catch ( The Wakefield to Huddersfield bus had a bad habit of either missing or they were short of drivers due to the Covid 19 virous at the time) 117 bus to Leeds as there was more bus routes from Leeds to Huddersfield or use the train, anyway the bus used to go through Wrenthorpe and I use hear locals say the were getting off at Woodside and others got off further on at Outwood park.
One of my local bus stops near where I live, the locals always ask for the Drill Hall even though the Drill hall had been pulled down long before some of the local bus travelers were born. ;D
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According to the Survey of English Place-Names, Outwood has at various times been known as Outwoodside:
https://epns.nottingham.ac.uk/browse/West+Riding+of+Yorkshire/Wakefield/5328827cb47fc40c81006290-Outwood
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Woodside in Wrenthorpe is in the Yorkshire and The Humber region of England. The postcode is within the Wrenthorpe and Outwood West ward/electoral division, which is in the constituency of Morley and Outwood. This page combines information for the address Woodside, Wrenthorpe, Wakefield, WF2 0LD, and the neighbourhood in which it resides. If you wish, you can also view information for the whole of WF2 here. For more details on the exact area these statistics cover, please see the map below and click "Show Census Area Covered" immediately below the map.
https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/wf20ld
Below link Scroll down to you see 1791
https://www.google.com/search?q=woodside+lodge++outwood+wakefield&sca_esv=582374017&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB1082GB1082&ei=yNlTZd78KpiG9u8PxJOGCA&ved=0ahUKEwjegPuuq8SCAxUYg_0HHcSJAQEQ4dUDCBA&oq=woodside+lodge++outwood+wakefield&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIXdvb2RzaWRlIGxvZGdlICBvdXR3b29kIHdha2VmaWVsZDIIEAAYiQUYogQyCBAAGIkFGKIEMggQABiJBRiiBDIFEAAYogQyBRAAGKIESLhPUMULWLwhcAF4AJABAJgBYqABpASqAQE3uAEMyAEA-AEBwgILEAAYiQUYogQYsAPCAggQABiiBBiwA8ICChAhGKABGMMEGArCAggQIRigARjDBOIDBBgBIEGIBgGQBgQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp