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Title: County City Commission papers
Post by: what0101 on Sunday 05 November 23 12:57 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if the records of the Dublin County City Commission are available? I'm looking for a case that was scheduled for "the commission for Oyer and Terminer for the county and city of Dublin" in February 1911.
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 17 November 23 21:49 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if the records of the Dublin County City Commission are available? I'm looking for a case that was scheduled for "the commission for Oyer and Terminer for the county and city of Dublin" in February 1911.

This is just a fancy name for the Assizes for Dublin. Usually fully reported in the newspapers, to which I would resort.
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: what0101 on Sunday 19 November 23 11:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you. Do you know if the Southern Police Court also has a more common name?
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 19 November 23 17:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you. Do you know if the Southern Police Court also has a more common name?

That is its common name. The Dublin Metropolitan Police Court had at least three locations - Central, Southern, and Northern. I believe this is the Dublin equivalent to petty sessions in rural areas.
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: what0101 on Sunday 19 November 23 17:49 GMT (UK)
Do you know, by any chance, if any of the records of the the police court have survived? I asked the archive but they weren't familiar with the name. The case I am interested in was scheduled for the assizes but was dropped before it went to trial.
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 19 November 23 19:10 GMT (UK)
Perhaps the Prisoner books will have something useful to you.
https://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:43945
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: what0101 on Sunday 19 November 23 20:26 GMT (UK)
Perhaps the Prisoner books will have something useful to you.
https://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:43945

This looks like it should be so useful for me! But I don't see the women I am looking for in it. The crime was murder (later manslaughter) and this book seems to say it was for crimes related to dishonesty? I have their Mountjoy General Register of Prisoners, but it doesn't spell out the outcome other than one was released "by order of the Lord's Justice" a few days before the assizes were supposed to take place.
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 19 November 23 21:04 GMT (UK)
Do you know, by any chance, if any of the records of the the police court have survived? I asked the archive but they weren't familiar with the name. The case I am interested in was scheduled for the assizes but was dropped before it went to trial.

According to the National Archives description page, they don't survive - or at least are not held by the NAI.
https://www.nationalarchives.ie/article/guide-court-records-ireland-pre-1922/ (https://www.nationalarchives.ie/article/guide-court-records-ireland-pre-1922/)
Title: Re: County City Commission papers
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 19 November 23 21:06 GMT (UK)
Perhaps the Prisoner books will have something useful to you.
https://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:43945

This looks like it should be so useful for me! But I don't see the women I am looking for in it. The crime was murder (later manslaughter) and this book seems to say it was for crimes related to dishonesty? I have their Mountjoy General Register of Prisoners, but it doesn't spell out the outcome other than one was released "by order of the Lord's Justice" a few days before the assizes were supposed to take place.

You would enable others to potentially help you if you were to post details.