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Title: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Saturday 04 November 23 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hello

Can anyone help me find out what happened to James Mooney who was born to James and Bridget (nee Kane) Mooney and baptised at the Drumagarner chapel in 1856.

In the 1901 census he living 14 Hervey Hill, Killygullib, CO Londonderry and is a farmer. His mother is also alive and present at the same address. He is single.

In 1903 his mother Bridget Mooney dies. He is present at death and marks with an X on the death certificate.

Then he is gone! In the 1911 census the same house is owned by the Oneill's.

I have looked in the surrounding roads where his brother Thomas lives and he is not there nor at other known relatives.

He cant read or write.

I cant seem to find a death record matching him. I have looked in Scotland too as his brother Hugh had moved there but no joy.

I have access to Ancestry etc. if anyone has any ideas i would be grateful.

Thanks

Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 04 November 23 20:15 GMT (UK)
The 1898-1910 valuation revision book covering Killygullib Glebe shows a house and just over 9 acres of land leased to James Mooney, in the 1910-1929 book, James' name has been replaced with John (Mooney).

Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Saturday 04 November 23 20:35 GMT (UK)
The 1898-1910 valuation revision book covering Killygullib Glebe shows a house and just over 9 acres of land leased to James Mooney, in the 1910-1929 book, James' name has been replaced with John (Mooney).

Thank you! I was aware of the 9 acres! Yes John Mooney another popular family name. I will try and look that book up online, does it say what house is leased?

I assumed the house 14 Hervey Hill was not part of the lease as i think the 3rd page of the census, attached suggest he is owner?



Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 04 November 23 21:03 GMT (UK)

The 1898-1910 valuation revision book covering Killygullib Glebe shows a house and just over 9 acres of land leased to James Mooney, in the 1910-1929 book, James' name has been replaced with John (Mooney).


I should have provided the link for you to see for yourself, the books have an index at the start which indicate the page you need to turn to.

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx

Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Sunday 05 November 23 13:43 GMT (UK)

The 1898-1910 valuation revision book covering Killygullib Glebe shows a house and just over 9 acres of land leased to James Mooney, in the 1910-1929 book, James' name has been replaced with John (Mooney).


I should have provided the link for you to see for yourself, the books have an index at the start which indicate the page you need to turn to.

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx

Thanks, perfect!

Maybe this will narrow down a death record search.
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 02 August 24 09:52 BST (UK)
For reference-
James Mooney (age 55) and mother Bridget in Killygullib- 14 is merely the house number the enumerator used in that particular census-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Hervey_Hill/Killygullib_Glebe/1520688/
Death of mother Bridget-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05648/4590066.pdf
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: Sinann on Friday 02 August 24 19:04 BST (UK)
His house is number 11 in 1911, his name is listed for it but it is unoccupied.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002811210/

Number 194.
1912 transfer of land from James to John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-12TF?i=397&cat=185720
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Wednesday 07 August 24 15:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies, John was Jame's nephew.

Thanks for the clarification of the house number!

John, the buyer of the land and his brother would eventually move to Canada after one of them married protestant girl.

Never have resolved what happened to James, i am hoping he made it to the next census!

Always grateful for you time.

Hugh
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 07 August 24 22:41 BST (UK)
I hope you aren't really waiting for the 1921 Census for Co, Londonderry-
"The 1921 Census was not taken in Ireland due to the Irish War of Independence. Censuses in Ireland and Northern Ireland were conducted in 1926." (From Find My Past)
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 07 August 24 23:03 BST (UK)
The Northern Ireland 1926 Census returns haven’t survived so no point in waiting.
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2013/06/1926-census-of-ni-myth-becomes-sad-truth.html
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: gaffy on Wednesday 07 August 24 23:09 BST (UK)
The next one was 1937.

Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Monday 12 August 24 14:34 BST (UK)
The next one was 1937.


The Northern Ireland 1926 Census returns haven’t survived so no point in waiting.
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2013/06/1926-census-of-ni-myth-becomes-sad-truth.html

Nooo!! Oh dear, well James is probably lost then.  :-\
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 12 August 24 16:23 BST (UK)
Possibilty?
D/1922/96/1008/14/96 - James Mooney - 27th January 1922 - age 77 - Coleraine (Kilrea sub-district)
Title: Re: James Mooney Killygullib
Post by: anotherhugh on Saturday 24 August 24 14:40 BST (UK)
Possibilty?
D/1922/96/1008/14/96 - James Mooney - 27th January 1922 - age 77 - Coleraine (Kilrea sub-district)

Hi, thanks! I was on holiday and just looked this up. This James was married, might be a bit to young as well.