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Title: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 01:27 GMT (UK)
Hello
Are records that are listed as "This record is officially closed" for the 1939 Register on another site are actually accessible?
Harry Walker (born 28 August 1879) and his wife Florence (born 15 June 1896) and one child are readily readable but the remaining children aren't, even though all are deceased.  The residence is at Wisbech. 
Many thanks from Australia.
Regards
Stuart McDonald
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Dundee on Friday 03 November 23 01:47 GMT (UK)
They should only be redacted if they were born after 1923 but sometimes mistakes are made.  If you want their records opened you need to do it via FindMyPast.

Scroll down to 'What if my ancestor's record is closed'

https://search.findmypast.com.au/search-world-records/1939-register#learn-more

Also check FindMyPast to see if they are open, Ancestry is a long way behind on updating their indexes.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Dundee on Friday 03 November 23 01:55 GMT (UK)
I can see two children, Kathleen (1921) and Joseph (1930) open on both sites. 

Debra  :)
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 01:59 GMT (UK)
They should only be redacted if they were born after 1923....
Thanks Debra, if a child is born after 1923 but appears, does that imply someone else has requested a release of the record?
Cheers, Stuart
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 02:02 GMT (UK)
I can see two children, Kathleen (1921) and Joseph (1930) open on both sites. 

I guess it's in the "eye of the beholder", I can see Joseph but not Kathleen, but I'm not on FindMyPast.
Tanks, Stuart
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Dundee on Friday 03 November 23 02:31 GMT (UK)
Ancestry looks like this to me.

Debra  :)

Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Dundee on Friday 03 November 23 02:36 GMT (UK)
I see that Kathleen is not actually indexed and that is probably just someone not doing their job properly. 

Debra  :)
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 02:37 GMT (UK)
Ancestry looks like this to me.
Thanks for the comparison, it looks the same to me except Kathleen, or the line where Kathleen appears on your screen shot, is blacked out.
Thanks again
Stuart ;D
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 02:39 GMT (UK)
I see that Kathleen is not actually indexed and that is probably just someone not doing their job properly. 

Heavens to murgatroyd, who  would have thought.
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: softly softly on Friday 03 November 23 07:40 GMT (UK)
Stuart, do you have details of the redacted children, details of Harry's marriage (ie his father's name and occupation) and details of Harry's 1st marriage?

SS
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 07:51 GMT (UK)
Stuart, do you have details of the redacted children

Yes, I do. Do you want to send a private message?
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 03 November 23 14:39 GMT (UK)
They should only be redacted if they were born after 1923

They are also opened if they are deceased and born after 1923.  If they did not die in England / Wales then they could also still be redacted.
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: Stuart_McDonald on Friday 03 November 23 22:18 GMT (UK)
They should only be redacted if they were born after 1923

They are also opened if they are deceased and born after 1923.  If they did not die in England / Wales then they could also still be redacted.
Thanks for the insight, and yes, two of the children did die in the US, the other two in the UK.  The process to request the opening of these records seems very intense.
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 04 November 23 07:43 GMT (UK)
I have had one opened and I recall that it was easy to do with a FindMyPast subscription
Title: Re: 1939 England and Wales Register (Cambridgeshire)
Post by: magslote on Saturday 04 November 23 10:49 GMT (UK)
wisbeach births/bapts, harry walker 4 quarter 1879 mmn walker.3b/587.1939, 2 clifton terrace, wisbeach. harry walker, 28.8.1879, county court baliff, married.florence/mabel walker,15.6.1896 married.kathleen walker dau, 28.10.1921 single.joseph walker, 23.4.1930 single.death wisbeach harry walker 1880-1950 70 years.4a/256.1881 union workhouse, lynn rd, wisbeach st peter.harry walker, inmate,single, aged 1. rg11/1696/107/p6.1891 main rd elm wisbeach. william walker born 1832, ag lab.ELM.sarah wife 1834 emneth,hannah dau 1870 elm.HARRY WALKER, GRANDSON, aged 11 at wisbeach.School admins, harry walker, 28.8.1879, year 1883, elm junior middle infants.